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When this odd mailist behavior was instituted a while back, many people complained and it was decided by the instituter that there was to be a poll about it and if most people in the poll complained, they would return to the standard behavior. What ever happened to that? All I see are complaints about this behavior. I don't remember anyone saying they loved it. Like the other poster, I find it mildly annoying - especially after sending, I realize I used the wrong method and have to do it all over again. That's not very productive.
Girvin Herr



Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :)
That is weird. It might still be a User Profile issue on all the machines. Most likely is a particular Extension/Add-on that you have on all machines. Do you have anything like that? If you rename the User Profile on just 1 machine as a test rather than doing it on all machines. https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile

wrt to replying to the list you are not the only one. I didn't even realise your reply didn't go to the list and was wondering why no-one else responded to my post. We have to use "Reply to all" or "Group reply" rather than just the normal "Reply to". It is annoying a few of us but there doesn't seem to be anything any of us can do about it. Apols and regards from Tom :)Â





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From: Thomas Blasejewicz <thomas@s7.dion.ne.jp>
To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 2 July 2013, 16:39
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] constant crashes


I am sorry, I responded (again) only to Mr. Davies and not the list. There seems to be a trick to it ...

(2013/07/02 18:26), Tom Davies wrote:
Hi
Also try

Tools - Options - Memory

and increase the various sizes. I have it set at something like 20Mb/object and above the "Use for LibreOffice" set a LOT higher than i expect the final documents to be. Around 50Mb might be a good idea.



However, crashes are usually a result of Java behaving badly. You can probably switch Java off completely or just switch it off for LIbreOffice

Tools - Options - Advanced

The top tick-box lets you switch it off.


The next most common cause is some problem in your User Profile so you might want to temporarily "get back to factory defaults" by renaming your User Profile
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile

Well, I run LO on Win XP SP3, 2.5 GB RAM
Turned off ALL other software
Set memory per object to 20 MB
memory for LO to 50 MB
changed version of JAVA
turned JAVA off

so far no improvement.

reset user profile? not yet. Iif I do that, I suppose I loose all my styles, templates, autotext, macros etc., right?
Or will they remain available?
Anyway, that is an adventure I may try when I am at leisure after dinner or so ...


One more thing: the exact same thing happens exactly in the same way on three different computers.
Two running Windows XP, one Win 7.
Can this still be problem with the user profile?














One person found that upgrading to a more recent version of LibreOffice solved a crashing problem


There is another rare and intermittent bug to do with images. It's been around since OOo 2.(something) but is very rare and difficult to pin-down because it is not easy to reproduce conditions reliably. Best work-arounds are 1. Switch off the auto-back-up! But then you have to keep making sure you do save regularly and fairly frequently, perhaps incrementing versions occasionally to ensure you can easily go back to a previous state. 2. to keep a copy of all the images in a sub-folder in the same folder as the document, or elsewhere that is easy to get to so that if images do vanish from the document then it's easy to replace them 3. Work on your document locally and then upload back to the network or Cloud or usb-stick or where-ever you keep it.

Regards from
Tom


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     *From:* Dries Feys <dries.feys@tvh.com>
     *To:* Thomas Blasejewicz <thomas@s7.dion.ne.jp>
     *Cc:* "users@global.libreoffice.org" <users@global.libreoffice.org>
     *Sent:* Tuesday, 2 July 2013, 8:45
     *Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-users] constant crashes

     You could try version 3.6.6 or 4.0.4.

     Do you have enough ram? On what OS are you working?

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     On 2 July 2013 09:15, Thomas Blasejewicz <thomas@s7.dion.ne.jp
<mailto:thomas@s7.dion.ne.jp>> wrote:
     > Good afternoon
     > I do have an "ordinary" ODF Writer file, about 14 MB in size
     because of
     > about 60 monochrome pictures (writing a book).
     > This file is usually open in "print preview mode".
     > When I try to switch to "web layout", so that I can see more text
     > without all those funky margins and spaces between pages,
     > LibreOffice (3.6.5.2) ALWAYS crashes "due to an unexpected
     error" as it
     > calls it.
     >
     > Is there anything I can do about this VERY annoying behavior?
     >
     > Thank you.
     > Thomas
     >


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