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Tom,

You have got to be the most positive thinking person I've ever "met," even if only through cyberspace.

I aspire to your positive outlook. (And I'm not being facetious or sarcastic.)

Virgil

-----Original Message----- From: Tom Davies
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 1:45 PM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] constant crashes

Hi :)
I don't mind getting 2 copies of so many emails. After clearing 20 emails i feel better than after clearing just 10 and almost double-clicking the delete key is not really tough for me. I know it does infuriate some other people though. My main worry is if no-one on the list sees my replies so i usually quickly glance at the "To" and "CC" fields to see who is getting the response.

Regards from
Tom :)





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From: Virgil Arrington <cuyfalls@hotmail.com>
To: Thomas Blasejewicz <thomas@s7.dion.ne.jp>; users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Tuesday, 2 July 2013, 18:11
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] constant crashes


Hit "reply all."

This is the only list I belong to that requires that selection. Then, the
person you're replying to gets two emails, unless after hitting "reply all"
you go into the "To" box and manually delete the extra emails.

Virgil

-----Original Message----- From: Thomas Blasejewicz
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 11:39 AM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] constant crashes

I am sorry, I responded (again) only to Mr. Davis and lot the list.
There seems to be a trick to it ...

(2013/07/02 18:26), Tom Davies wrote:
Hi
Also try

Tools - Options - Memory

and increase the various sizes.  I have it set at something like
20Mb/object and above the "Use for LibreOffice" set a LOT higher than i
expect the final documents to be.  Around 50Mb might be a good idea.



However, crashes are usually a result of Java behaving badly. You can
probably switch Java off completely or just switch it off for LIbreOffice

Tools - Options - Advanced

The top tick-box lets you switch it off.


The next most common cause is some problem in your User Profile so you
might want to temporarily "get back to factory defaults" by renaming your
User Profile
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile

Well, I run LO on Win XP SP3, 2.5 GB RAM
Turned off ALL other software
Set memory per object to 20 MB
memory for LO to 50 MB
changed version of JAVA
turned JAVA off

so far no improvement.

reset user profile? not yet. Iif I do that, I suppose I loose all my
styles, templates, autotext, macros etc., right?
Or will they remain available?
Anyway, that is an adventure I may try when I am at leisure after dinner
or so ...


One more thing: the exact same thing happens exactly in the same way on
three different computers.
Two running Windows XP, one Win 7.
Can this still be problem with the user profile?















One person found that upgrading to a more recent version of LibreOffice
solved a crashing problem


There is another rare and intermittent bug to do with images. It's been
around since OOo 2.(something) but is very rare and difficult to pin-down
because it is not easy to reproduce conditions reliably.  Best
work-arounds are
1.  Switch off the auto-back-up!  But then you have to keep making sure
you do save regularly and fairly frequently, perhaps incrementing versions
occasionally to ensure you can easily go back to a previous state.
2. to keep a copy of all the images in a sub-folder in the same folder as
the document, or elsewhere that is easy to get to so that if images do
vanish from the document then it's easy to replace them
3.  Work on your document locally and then upload back to the network or
Cloud or usb-stick or where-ever you keep it.

Regards from
Tom


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    *From:* Dries Feys <dries.feys@tvh.com>
    *To:* Thomas Blasejewicz <thomas@s7.dion.ne.jp>
    *Cc:* "users@global.libreoffice.org" <users@global.libreoffice.org>
    *Sent:* Tuesday, 2 July 2013, 8:45
    *Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-users] constant crashes

    You could try version 3.6.6 or 4.0.4.

    Do you have enough ram? On what OS are you working?

    Met vriendelijke groeten, Salutations distinguées, Kind Regards,

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    On 2 July 2013 09:15, Thomas Blasejewicz <thomas@s7.dion.ne.jp
<mailto:thomas@s7.dion.ne.jp>> wrote:
    > Good afternoon
    > I do have an "ordinary" ODF Writer file, about 14 MB in size
    because of
    > about 60 monochrome pictures (writing a book).
    > This file is usually open in "print preview mode".
    > When I try to switch to "web layout", so that I can see more text
    > without all those funky margins and spaces between pages,
    > LibreOffice (3.6.5.2) ALWAYS crashes "due to an unexpected
    error" as it
    > calls it.
    >
    > Is there anything I can do about this VERY annoying behavior?
    >
    > Thank you.
    > Thomas
    >




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