I tested it with 3.5.7 for 64-bit Ubuntu [.deb] and I do not see the
issue at all. I use the default PDF viewer as well.
I wonder if it was fixed between 3.5.6 and 3.5.7?
OR - Could it look different in a different viewer that the "official"
Adobe Reader?
I do have both the Linux Libertine G and the non-G versions. I used
the uploaded text file and tested it. The PDF output with "Export to
PDF" did not give me any issue.
As for the "best of both packages", in some articles I have read, AOO
is taking the "best" of LO coding and including it into their package,
since LO developer really have made a large amount of work cleaning
and improving the base code from the OOo 3.x base code days. The big
problem, IMO, is the licensing issue. AOO has a different approach,
so I have been told, and it is not as "flexible" for the rights of the
individual developers as the LO project has. AOO can use LO's code,
but LO's licensing approach will not allow AOO coding to be "easily" a
part LO's package unless there is a revamping of the way the
developers keep their ownership of their work. [or so I have been told
in my reading].
As for the Libertine font itself, I see the following in my font window:
Linux Libertine
Linux Libertine Capitals
Linux Libertine Display
Linux Libertine Display Capitals
Linux Libertine G
Linux Libertine Initials
Linux Libertine Slanted.
I also have:
Linux Biolinum
Linux Biolinum Captials
Linux Biolinum G
Linux Biolinum Keyboard
Linux Biolinum Outline
Linux Biolinum Shadow
Linux Biolinum Slanted
I do not use Libertine or Biolinum "much", since about 1/3 of the
things I do I tend to go to others for editing in the Windows and
non-LO environment. They use the MS core fonts. Now if I was to send
out in PDFs, then I can embed the fonts in the documents and therefore
could use these fonts. With over 14 Gigi of font files to choose
from, I tend to get lost in who has and who do not have the fonts I
use on a weekly basis.
On 10/31/2012 01:39 PM, VA wrote:
Interesting problem. Based on my tests, which I detail below, it
appears to be LibO bug rather than a font problem.
I'm using LibO 3.5.6.2 with Win7 and Adobe Reader.
In the sentence "This is the official version" with Linux Libertine
G, there are two instances of automatic ligatures--the "Th"
combination in "This," and the "ffi" combination in "official." In
Adobe Reader, I aas able to find "This" when I did a search, which
means that the Reader recognized the "Th" ligature as a "T" followed
by an "h" which is what I typed into the search box. But, when I
tried to search for "official" the Adobe Reader couldn't find it,
which means it did NOT associate my typing of an "f", "f", "I" with
the "ffi" ligature.
Then when I copied and pasted the sentence from the PDF file into a
plain text editor, it placed an "h" before every instance of an "i"
just as was reported. However, this obviously has nothing to do with
ligatures as most of the instances of "i" were NOT included in the
ligatures. In fact, it did not place an "h" before the "i" in the
"ffi" ligature.
For comparison, I ran the same test using Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1. to
see if it is a font issue or a program issue. I'm sorry to report
that it appears to be a program issue. In AOO, I typed the same
sentence using Linux Libertine G, "This is the official version." I
then saved it as a PDF and opened it in Adobe Reader. This time, a
search found both "This" and "official" despite both words containing
ligatures. And, when I copied the sentence into a plain text editor,
it copied correctly without any additions of "h" before "i".
I love the Linux Libertine set of fonts. I use it, not only with LibO
and AOO, but also when I set a document in LaTeX.
I have found that Apache OpenOffice's support for Linux Libertine G
appears to be more complete and polished than LibO's. This may be an
example of that more complete support.
Of course, LibO has its advantages over AOO; for example, it properly
hyphenates American English words, with AOO does not appear to do. It
would be nice if someone could combine the best of both programs into
one complete program (along with the tabbed interface of Lotus
Symphony, yet a third fork of the original OO). But, I won't hold my
breath.
Virgil
-----Original Message----- From: Dan Lewis
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 7:02 AM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Searchable PDFs from Graphite fonts
On 10/30/2012 11:08 PM, Jonathan Schultz wrote:
I can select the text in the PDF, copy and paste, but get an 'h'
added before most 'i'. I can search, but not if the word is one with
the extra h before i Steve
That's exactly what I mean. It effectively means no searching.
I tried both Linux Libertine and Linux Biolinum [14 point] on my
3.5.7 version for Ubuntu 64-bit. I cannot replicate the issue with
"added" characters.
Were you using Graphite fonts ('Libertine G'/'Biolinum G')? Those
are the ones where the problem arises. Those are also the fonts that
do ligatures and other lovely typesetting things that make them look
so nice, which I why I want to use them.
Cheers,
Jonathan
Seems to me that you have solved your own problem: it is the
fonts. The search function can not handle the the lovely typesetting
things. As you mentioned, an "i" looks like a "hi" to it. The only real
solution is to not use any of the Graphite fonts in a PDF.
But if you want to search the PDF, have you opened it in Draw and
search for the text in it?
--Dan
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