Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: MS raised prices so people will now start renting their office products instead

Forgive me, but I thought one of the aims of LO was improvements to
usability. I open emails mailed to me dozens of times a day. Doing Save-As,
or clicking the edit button takes little time I agree, but why is it so
wrong to desire that as the default to save me time?

On 9 October 2012 10:18, Andreas Säger <villeroy@t-online.de> wrote:

> Am 09.10.2012 09:14, Marcello Romani wrote:
> > Il 08/10/2012 14:13, John Clegg ha scritto:
> > > OK, if I accept everything that has been said, then why wouldn't
> > > opening an
> > > in-memory r/w copy be the sensible default action?
> >
> > So that when the user would try to save it a Save As dialog would appear
> ?
> > Sounds good to me.
>
> Again, it is not the office program which creates read-only files. In
> most cases some other application calls the office to *view* some
> document. In most cases the office is called by a browser, mail client
> or cloud application to view online content or mail attachments.
>
> There are many reasons why this application has a viewing mode. It must
> not open some document in unsaved template mode just because the file is
> read-only. That would be extremely annoying for many users.
> Most of our ODF documents (documentations, print-outs, database forms,
> reports) are strictly read-only because only one person (me, the file
> owner) is supposed to modify these. The co-workers can work with the
> contained material (read, print, mail as PDF, edit databases through
> forms).
>
> All you've got to do is hitting the edit button in order to get an
> editable new and unsaved document.
> All you've got to do is saving the same document in your own file system
> in order to get your own editable copy of the document.
>
> Some Microsoft "feature" carries over the read-only flag when an
> application saves a document under another name. I'd call this a bug. No
> other file system behaves that silly. You need to turn it off in the
> file properties (right-click file in Win Explorer>Properties...).
>
> There is also an internal read-only mode implemented in the office
> program (File>Save As... save with password, open read-only with
> password). But that is another story. The internal flag within the
> document does not protect the file from being manipulated by other
> applications and the read-only status is carried with every copy of the
> file.
>
>
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