Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: MS raised prices so people will now start renting their office products instead

Il 05/10/2012 17:18, Marcello Romani ha scritto:
> Il 05/10/2012 16:31, webmaster-Kracked_P_P ha scritto:
> > On 10/05/2012 10:10 AM, Marcello Romani wrote:
> > > Il 05/10/2012 11:07, John Clegg ha scritto:
> > > > One feature I miss isn't actually a feature in MSO as such, but LO
> > > > behaves
> > > > differently. If I open a spreadsheet from an email or the web it
> > > > places a
> > > > copy in the download folder/directory and Calc always opens it
> > > > read-only
> > > > whereas Excel opens it as read-write. I would like at least an
> > > > option to
> > > > get Calc to open it as read-write. To do so I have to save a copy
> > > > before I start, and as I do this around 100 times a day it becomes
> > > > quite an
> > > > irritant.
> > >
> > > It's just a "modify document" button click away. But I guess it's more
> > > a "problem" of the web browser or e-mail client rather than OOo/LibO
> > > as such.
> > >
> > > The browser / e-mail client puts a read-only file in the user temp
> > > folder, then passes its full path to OOo/LibO for reading. OOo/LibO
> > > will just notice it's a readonly file and will behave accordingly.
> > >
> > > Hopefully someone with more technicall indsight into this can confirm
> > > or correct me ?
> >
> > This open as a read only is a "security feature" from before LO came
> > out.  I remembering it doing the same with OpenOffice.org and MSO-2003.
> >
> > The file, at least with Thunderbird, that come in an email attachment is
> > stored in a TEMP folder.  Those files are, by nature, read-only till
> > they get saved outside the TEMP [/tmp for Linux] folder.
> >
> > I know it is a hassle for people but I really do not want to have any
> > email attachments placed in a "normal" data folder without me saving it
> > there.  That way I control what gets saved from the email and then all
> > the other stuff is removed with the deletion cycle of the email client's
> > TEMP folder content.
> >
> > We must think safety first and deal with the hassles like this, or could
> > suffer a email that places their attachment file anywhere it wants to be
> > and may be overwrite a working file with the same name or worse a system
> > file.
>
> If those files weren't read only there would be other, more serious
> complaints from users (I had one).
> The user would doubleclick on an attachment and have it open r/w in
> OOo/LibO/MSO. He would start modifying it right away (no hassle!), then
> save it. Then close the word processor and forget about it.
> Then after a little while go to the IT guy asking where the hell is that
> document that he just "saved".
>
> Being readonly, instead, forces the user to click on that damned icon,
> so the program produces an in-memory r/w copy of the document that will
> trigger a "save as" procedure when the user would click "save".


There was a missing bit in my description: if the attachment would be 
opened R/W, the file would be saved in the user's temp folder. So it 
would be lost at best, or in worst case scenario deleted as temp folders 
gets cleaned.

--
Marcello Romani

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