Re: [libreoffice-users] formatting

On 7/25/2012 6:30 PM, anne-ology wrote:
>         Forinstance, this last presentation I chose the blue border ... and
> I always choose the blank slide [although this refuses to remain the
> default], ... then I chose the effects, the timing, ... then there's no
> place to choose the font for the text.

You are correct, there is no menu item where you can select a font that 
is subsequently the default for that slide or file.  In order to change 
the font you have to select the text (or modify its style).  The text 
needs to be highlighted with the mouse cursor.  Do you understand and 
know how to do that?


>         Then I added twice the number of slides I figured I'd need [added 50
> this time] ... then clicked on 'apply to all'.

What are the steps to get to this "apply to all" button?  I don't 
remember seeing it.


>         Then I added text to the first slide - the size of the font here
> would be different being the header, [I chose papyrus with red] ...
>             then I went on to the next slide ... and added the text ... it
> was Ariel with black,
>             so I 'selected all' & re-chose the font & color ... ditto for
> each subsequent slide; each time, I can return to hit the 'apply to all'
> ... but the text & color do not remain.

Before you "select all" you need to go to the OUTLINE tab.  Do you know 
how to do that?

Before you go to the outline tab you need to TYPE in ALL of your text.  
However, to save you some work, lets limit "all" to two slides.  So...

STEP 1:  Create 2 slides (you've already done that).
STEP 2: Type in all of your text into all of your slides  (here we're 
pretending that 2 slides are all you have)
STEP 3: Go to the OUTLINE tab.  Note that you can go to the outline tab 
before or after typing in text, the order doesn't matter but you MUST be 
in OUTLINE mode before selecting all.
STEP 4: Select all.  (One way to do this is with CTRL-A).  You should 
visually see all of your text on all of your (2) slides highlighted.
STEP 5:  Change the font (I assume you know how to change the font. If 
not, ask.)  Also make your color changes at this time.


Note: I have not tested this with color, just fonts.

Be advised this is NOT the best way to design your presentation. The 
experts here (which I'm not) recommend (and I have no argument with 
them) that the best way to change fonts and other attributes is through 
the use of styles.

You should be aware that manually changing fonts as described above 
SUPERSEDES styles.  In other words, you can change the style attributes 
all you want, if you've already manually changed the font, styles will 
have no effect.  To get styles to work again, you need to select the 
text and click on the FORMAT menu then select the DEFAULT FORMATTING 
menu item which is first on the list.  That will clear the above manual 
font changes and the styles should automatically start working.  This is 
probably the key to your style problems.

Of course for you to see any style changes you have to first change the 
style attributes.  Ask if you don't know how to do that.

>         These details are added for you, Dan, although it works/doesn't work
> the same no matter what other styles I've chosen, either initially or as I
> add the new slides.
>
>         Andrew, I think you're the only one who understands to what I'm
> referring; thanks.

Yeah, I hear that a lot. :-\

To those that can do something about it:  I've noticed there are some 
confusing aspects.  For one thing, right clicking on text brings up a 
menu that has a "styles" item.  Those styles refer to what is elsewhere 
called "font effects".  For example "strikethrough", bold, italics, 
etc.  This can be confusing to a beginner.  In the "normal" tab, right 
clicking shows a menu item called "edit style".  In the "outline" tab 
that item appears to become "presentation object".  There are other 
similar confusing and inconsistent items related to this.  Someone 
really needs to sit down and take a good look.



> On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Dan <elderdanlewis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>       Could we be more detailed in this thread, please? I don't know what
> > mean when you ask "So you're able to change the text on all the slides?"
> > What type of change are you talking about? Are you talking about changing
> > the font of the text on all the slides?
> >       You have not even stated what style you have applied to your text.
> > Nor have you stated what styles you are using in your slides. Nor have you
> > described what layout you have selected from the Layout section of the Task
> > Pane. Please give us some details.
> >       I was using styles in Impress before OOo 2.0. For all layouts which
> > have a title "box" at the top of the page, LO and AOO apply the Title style
> > listed in the Presentation styles list. Modifying this style modifies all
> > the titles in all the slides at the same time. You have a copy of my slide
> > show. Change one of the styles in the Title style and look at the titles in
> > all the styles. For example, in the Font Effects tab, change the font
> > color. This will change the font color for every slide title in the
> > presentation. What I have described is how Impress has worked for "years."
> >
> > --Dan
> >
> >
> > anne-ology wrote:
> >
> > >          So you're able to change the text on all the slides?;
> > >             then mine has a bug in it somewhere ... carried over from OO I
> > > guess  ;-)
> > >
> > >          So, all you computer geniuses, what's the solution? - I'm awaiting
> > > your responses now.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 1:38 PM, Andrew Brager <apb3304@bak.rr.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >    I don't know anything about the inner workings of LO.  I'm actually
> > > just a
> > >
> > > > beginner with LO and I had never opened Impress until you posted.
> > > >
> > > > The method I described below allows you to change all the slides at the
> > > > same time, so you only have to make the change once.  Of course if you
> > > > add
> > > > more slides you need to do it again for the new slides.  No, it's not
> > > > ideal
> > > > and yes it would be nice if it worked the way you describe.  Good idea!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 7/25/2012 8:26 AM, anne-ology wrote:
> > > >
> > > >          Exactly my point, BUT it has to be done with each slide  ;-)
> > > >
> > > >          It would be nice, if the font was selectable on that initial page
> > > > when starting a new file ...
> > > >              [would this expand the size of LO even more than it is?; if
> > > > so,
> > > > I guess, it's better this way, just frustrating at times.]
> > > >
> > > >          I've even added more slides than I would need, in order to see if
> > > > the font & color will hold, but it won't  ;-)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 10:58 PM, Andrew Brager <apb3304@bak.rr.com
> > > > > wrote:
> > > >    I missed the part where you were using Impress, I thought you were
> > > > using
> > > >
> > > > > Writer.  After re-reading your original post and some of the other
> > > > > responses I think I now understand what you really want.
> > > > >
> > > > > I also have not been able to figure out a way to do it exactly as you
> > > > > described, the best I could come up with is to go to the "outline" tab,
> > > > > select all the text, then change the font.  That way, all of your slides
> > > > > will have the same font for that one file.


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Andrew Brager
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1331 Cottonwood Rd
Bakersfield, CA 93307
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