Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Is 3.5.4 ready for business users?

Hi :)
Thanks for your kind words :)  

Simplest answer is grab the 3.4.6 now if you don't already have LO on your system.  

If you already have LO then wait 4 weeks until the release of 3.5.5 on the 8th July or else just 
test-drive 3.5.4 for yourself and decide for yourself.  

Annoyingly there isn't really a simple Y/n type answer.  It depends what you need it for, what 
functionality you want and all that sort of thing.  Is a spoon better than a fork?  That type of 
thing.  It's a bit like watching tennis or going to a pantomime at the moment!  ("Oh yes it is", 
"Oh no it isn't")

In both previous branches the .4 was when the branch suddenly settled down a LOT and became a LOT 
more stable.  Unfortunately we wont know for certain until tons of people have been using it for a 
while.  We can't read the future!  Tons of people have been using the 3.4.6 for quite a few weeks 
with very few grumbles reaching this list.  

I guess each "sub-point release" is kinda like half a "Service Pack".  So, 3.5.4 is like saying 3.5 
with SP2.  Of course LO fans would say that each sub-point release is like a whole Service Pack so 
it's like 3.5 SP4 but in terms of comparing with other projects where SP2 is about where the 
project becomes stable i would say that it's the .4 in LO.  But we haven't really quantified this 
objectively yet.  It just seems to be the way it's playing out so far.  


Base still doesn't seem to have many people working on it.  TDF's BoD seem to have too many other 
issues to worry about and still haven't grabbed the steering-wheel and taken charge.  They are 
still unwilling to put any resources or imagination into sorting it out.  At the moment their plan 
for it is to sit&wait to see if one of our supporter companies (Redhat, Google, Canonical etc) 
magically becomes interested and starts sorting it.  
Regards from
Tom :)  


--- On Mon, 4/6/12, Pertti Rönnberg <ptjr@elisanet.fi> wrote:

From: Pertti Rönnberg <ptjr@elisanet.fi>
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Is 3.5.4 ready for business users?
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Monday, 4 June, 2012, 15:25

Dear you LibO folks,
I have now wasted a lot of time reading some 30 mails in this thread - it was of no use because 
most of them did not
handle neither give an answer to the original very relevant question:     "Is 3.5.4 ready for 
business users?"

So, what is the conclusion - if there is any?
Is 3.5.4. ready for business use, or not -- if not, what version is then in every way at least as 
or more reliable as e.g. MSOffice& MSAccess?
>     the MSO's license fees are peanuts compared with lost efficiency (and costs) if a company's 
> office personnel must struggle with LibO's bugs and issues many hours many days per week per month 
> -- and the company has to employ or buy some extra it-resources for that  (and fixing new problems 
> coming with new versions every 'second day')
>      no company can afford bad quality or inflexibility in communication with customers caused by 
> a not-working office program (LibO?)
>     MSO is no doubt the 90% market leader and is most certainly used by any company's most 
> important customers/contacts -- and the rest 10% will follow the majority every time they have to

Three weeks ago in another thread I put an similar question asking what is the best LibO version 
today for a private/home user -- a home user does not have it-experts or own skills in programming 
to rely on but has the same need of a troublefree program.
Thanks to Tom and Andreas for their kindness to answer; but neither of them gave me an exact 
recommendation: "that version is what you need"!

Perhaps that 'business ready version' of LibO could be the one for me too.
If there is no such a reliable version (not for business nor for home) then stop developing for a 
while and make one:  better to have a perfectly well working program with less features than one 
with plenty of fantastic features that does not work and that produces problems already when being 
installed!
Please, start with fixing Base!
Regards
Pertti Rönnberg


On 4.6.2012 3:49, Andreas Säger wrote:
> Am 04.06.2012 00:59, Tom Davies wrote:
> > Andreas' and e-letter's answer is to tell people that to use LO they must stop communicating 
> > with anyone that uses MS Office, so that is all their customers and clients, their colleagues, 
> > their boss and people that work for them, their family and friends.
>
>
> Are you going to start a flame war against me? Be careful, pal. Your assertion is without any 
> substance.


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