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Hello Pertti,
As a long-time (now retired) IBM-Systems Engineer serving large customers
I can only agree with you completely.
I myself keep using the latest LO-versions - having used OO/LO for at least
6 to 7 years.
However, there are a couple of - to my mind VERY important - insufficiencies
which would prevent me from using LO in a "real" business environment, and
they mostly have to do with Base and its integration with the Writer. I have
worked in the database area during a lot of my professional life. Most
businesses store their mission-critical data in (mostly) relational DBs
(and NOT in spreadsheets or isolated files galore all over the place!).
Therefore, a solid connection/integration of DBs is paramount for business
usage of LO.
Now, when I try to create letters for - say 100 people in my MySQL-DB -
I have to do this one by one, since things like lines, pictures, and
sometimes whole frames (e.g. used for footings or addresses) are "forgotten"
I only look after a brass band, but - just imagine an insurance company with
millions of customers - definitely NO GO!
Of course I should get involved myself in helping to fix these shortcomings.
Alas, I honestly cannot spare the time!
Nevertheless, I will continue to use LO, I like it, the performance has
improved tremendously, and I am sure things are bound to converge!!!
Regards from Salzburg

On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 16:25:54 +0200, Pertti Rönnberg <> wrote:

Dear you LibO folks,
I have now wasted a lot of time reading some 30 mails in this thread -
it was of no use because most of them did not
handle neither give an answer to the original very relevant question:
     "Is 3.5.4 ready for business users?"

So, what is the conclusion - if there is any?
Is 3.5.4. ready for business use, or not -- if not, what version is then
in every way at least as or more reliable as e.g. MSOffice& MSAccess?
 >    the MSO's license fees are peanuts compared with lost efficiency
(and costs) if a company's office personnel must struggle with LibO's
bugs and issues many hours many days per week per month -- and the
company has to employ or buy some extra it-resources for that  (and
fixing new problems coming with new versions every 'second day')
 >     no company can afford bad quality or inflexibility in
communication with customers caused by a not-working office program (LibO?)
 >    MSO is no doubt the 90% market leader and is most certainly used
by any company's most important customers/contacts -- and the rest 10%
will follow the majority every time they have to

Three weeks ago in another thread I put an similar question asking what
is the best LibO version today for a private/home user -- a home user
does not have it-experts or own skills in programming to rely on but has
the same need of a troublefree program.
Thanks to Tom and Andreas for their kindness to answer; but neither of
them gave me an exact recommendation: "that version is what you need"!

Perhaps that 'business ready version' of LibO could be the one for me too.
If there is no such a reliable version (not for business nor for home)
then stop developing for a while and make one:  better to have a
perfectly well working program with less features than one with plenty
of fantastic features that does not work and that produces problems
already when being installed!
Please, start with fixing Base!
Pertti Rönnberg

On 4.6.2012 3:49, Andreas Säger wrote:
Am 04.06.2012 00:59, Tom Davies wrote:

Andreas' and e-letter's answer is to tell people that to use LO they
must stop communicating with anyone that uses MS Office, so that is
all their customers and clients, their colleagues, their boss and
people that work for them, their family and friends.

Are you going to start a flame war against me? Be careful, pal. Your
assertion is without any substance.

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