Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How get LibreO-Base working?

Hi :)
A big
+1
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Wed, 1/2/12, Pertti Rönnberg <ptjr@elisanet.fi> wrote:

From: Pertti Rönnberg <ptjr@elisanet.fi>
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How get LibreO-Base working?
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Cc: "Alex Thurgood" <alex.thurgood@gmail.com>
Date: Wednesday, 1 February, 2012, 18:36

All of you.
Thanks very much for your kindness to bother answering - and for the very interesting discussions.

My conclusion is that LO-Base (and OO-Base ?) is not yet - and perhaps will not be as mentioned in 
the desciption at LO-Wikipedia: "A database management program 
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Database_management_program>, similar to Microsoft Access ..  etc" 
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Access>.
Its really pity because I think the usability of databases is underrated; quite ordinary people 
should have plenty of use of databases in their every day life if there only were free, easy 
installed, easy customized templates and some efforts on marketing. I just got a fancy idea that 
LO-/OO-Base could be that user-friendly solution.
Anyway, I still feel it worth trying to see if there should be a way to get my 32bit LO-Base 
working!

I agree. I am a 72 years "oldtimer" with a pure interest to keep up. When in office until about 10 
years ago I worked quite a lot with MSAccess and VBA & macros and got somewhat familiar with SQL 
too. MSAccess alone was enough for quite complicated projects with informative forms/reports and 
analyses.
So now it is not the MySQL/SQLite, it is the PHP-language and getting the MySQL/PHP/Apache 
combination working that I feel uncomfortable - I also have tried WASP.
Again - thanks and all the best!
Pertti Rönnberg


On 1.2.2012 9:43, Alex Thurgood wrote:
> Le 31/01/2012 22:07, Andreas Säger a écrit :
>
> Hi Andreas,
>
> > Am 31.01.2012 20:16, Alexander Thurgood wrote:
> > > Yes, the dependency on Java JRE/JDK is a pain in the backside, but
> > > unfortunately unavoidable if you want to use Base, at least for the time
> > > being.
> >
> > With no Java being installed, I can connect a Base document to any
> > non-Java database, write queries, draw input forms and use Calc as
> > reporting engine.
>
> And I would state that that is an "unusual" user setup. The user here wants a relational database 
> with subforms and reports and does not want to use mysql, so where does that leave him her with 
> regard to Base - IMO, with HSQLDB, the stock db engine provided with LO. For that, you need a 
> JRE/JDK.
>
> And Calc for reports is OK, much as is Writer, but for anything a bit more than a simple report, 
> the user will have to deal with not only the idiosyncrasies of the respective tool used for 
> creating the report, plus, in general, learn to use macros. The whole benefit of having a 
> specific reporting tool (the Java based ORB extension) is that this is suppose to ease that pain.
>
> Personally, I'd love to be able to say, you get a great and easy to use db reporting engine 
> without Java in LO, but that is simply not the case at the moment.
>
>
> Alex


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