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All of you.
Thanks very much for your kindness to bother answering - and for the very interesting discussions.

My conclusion is that LO-Base (and OO-Base ?) is not yet - and perhaps will not be as mentioned in the desciption at LO-Wikipedia: "A database management program <>, similar to Microsoft Access .. etc" <>. Its really pity because I think the usability of databases is underrated; quite ordinary people should have plenty of use of databases in their every day life if there only were free, easy installed, easy customized templates and some efforts on marketing. I just got a fancy idea that LO-/OO-Base could be that user-friendly solution. Anyway, I still feel it worth trying to see if there should be a way to get my 32bit LO-Base working!

I agree. I am a 72 years "oldtimer" with a pure interest to keep up. When in office until about 10 years ago I worked quite a lot with MSAccess and VBA & macros and got somewhat familiar with SQL too. MSAccess alone was enough for quite complicated projects with informative forms/reports and analyses. So now it is not the MySQL/SQLite, it is the PHP-language and getting the MySQL/PHP/Apache combination working that I feel uncomfortable - I also have tried WASP.
Again - thanks and all the best!
Pertti Rönnberg

On 1.2.2012 9:43, Alex Thurgood wrote:
Le 31/01/2012 22:07, Andreas Säger a écrit :

Hi Andreas,

Am 31.01.2012 20:16, Alexander Thurgood wrote:

Yes, the dependency on Java JRE/JDK is a pain in the backside, but
unfortunately unavoidable if you want to use Base, at least for the time

With no Java being installed, I can connect a Base document to any
non-Java database, write queries, draw input forms and use Calc as
reporting engine.

And I would state that that is an "unusual" user setup. The user here wants a relational database with subforms and reports and does not want to use mysql, so where does that leave him her with regard to Base - IMO, with HSQLDB, the stock db engine provided with LO. For that, you need a JRE/JDK.

And Calc for reports is OK, much as is Writer, but for anything a bit more than a simple report, the user will have to deal with not only the idiosyncrasies of the respective tool used for creating the report, plus, in general, learn to use macros. The whole benefit of having a specific reporting tool (the Java based ORB extension) is that this is suppose to ease that pain.

Personally, I'd love to be able to say, you get a great and easy to use db reporting engine without Java in LO, but that is simply not the case at the moment.


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