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Hi :)
+1
Ok, so i object to having to type out the whole of "though" and shorten it to 
"tho".  Oddly i like the  extra unnecessary "u" in colour and things tho 
(oops).  


Shakespeare was only about 400 years ago btw.  21st C - 17th C = 400.  My maths 
was wonky yday.
regards from
Tom :)




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From: webmaster for Kracked Press Productions <webmaster@krackedpress.com>
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Fri, 5 August, 2011 13:32:38
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to select extension dictionary for 
spellchecking

On 08/05/2011 12:22 AM, planas wrote:

Hi

On Thu, 2011-08-04 at 23:49 -0400, webmaster for Kracked Press
Productions wrote:


So, would it be better to use the Oxford English or the British English
form of spelling?  Here in the USA, if we do not use "proper American
spelling" our papers are rejected for sloppiness.  I wrote "colour" once
instead of "color" and the professor was upset with me.  My 20 pound
[weight] dictionary had the English spelling first, so I used it.  I did
not know better in those days before computer were smaller than a normal
car or truck.

So do we use en_GB or en_GB-oed as the default one for "Queen and
Country"?  I think use Americans sometimes spell our words differently
so we can be different after we broke away from British rule.

LibreOffice's Tools>Language Settings>Languages>Localized --->  has 14
different listing for English.  More languages than there are versions I
can find to install or are in the install .deb files.

http://libreoffice-na.us/English/add-on-dictionaries-large-list/US_English_April-19-2011-dic-file.oxt
t
is the link to one that has the most up-to-date .dic file I could find.
I found the file and updated the original .oxt file with it.  Maybe
someone could do that for en_GB-oed to my it better and more up-to-date
than from a 2005 .dic file [which the one linked to before from OOo's
site has].

Actually 500 years ago, most people could not read.  So knowing how to
spell was not important.

Actually look at the number of different France/French language versions
- 4 of them - plus a few localized ones that no longer are called French
since they are so different.

20+ Spanish dictionaries are in the list I have at:
http://libreoffice-na.us/English/extensions.html#dict .  All localized
to a country which uses it.


On 08/04/2011 05:55 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
I think 500 years ago there wasn't even an agreed standard way of spelling 

any

word.  Shakespeare wrote his own name with many different spellings during 

his

life.  I did think that ise had been "THE English way" for a LOT longer tho!
lol.  Languages have to evolve and adapt to changing requirements.

Regards from
Tom :)




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From: webmaster for Kracked Press Productions<webmaster@krackedpress.com>
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Thu, 4 August, 2011 20:55:36
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to select extension dictionary for
spellchecking


So you are saying that the British English use of -ise instead of -ize is a 

new

thing that is just a new way of spelling words that have been around, a new
localized [or is it localised] way?

I use American English which spells colour as color.  But this is the first 
time
I have heard of the -ise/-ize issue.  Well they always say language 

involves.

Take English in Britain about 500 years ago.  The same words, but different
spellings.

So should I dump en_GB in favor en_GB-oed version?
Should I not include en_CA or en_GB[oed] in my dictionary list in the USA?
I know that one .oxt dictionary add-on that includes many different English
files.
Should people not use that type?

en_GB-oed .dic file has 46,113 words in its word list.  The Wiki page shows
"analyse" in en_GB-oed and "analyze" in en_US.  Well in the oed .dic file I
cannot find "analyse".  Below is the word list where that word should be
located, but it is not.
--------------------
ample/PT
amplification/M
anarchy/3Ww1SM
anastigmatic
Andaman/M
aneroid
Anglican/MS
--------------------

I found the word
      analyse in the en_GB .dic file dated 2010-02-15
      analyze in the en_CA .dic file dated 2010-02-15
      but neither spelling in the en_GB-eod version dated 2005-06-13.
So the "eod" version has not kept up with what the Wiki page link shows for
Oxford English.

Of course, you could always edit a word list and keep only the spellings 

that

Oxford English excepts.  As I understand, the complete Oxford dictionary
contains 20 volumes/books to hold all the words and definitions.  I have a 

word

list of over 200,000 words, but would you want to have a word processor 

spell

checker dictionary with all those words, or only the ones you really want to
use?  The more words in the list, the more chances that your misspelled 

words

are correct spelling for a different unwanted word.  There is not good way
around it, except edit your word list to remove the words that are not 

spelled

correctly for your localized version of the language.


On 08/04/2011 10:18 AM, ron.vandenbranden wrote:

Hi,

Thanks for your thoughts.

On Thursday 4 August 2011 15:12:21, krackedpress [via Document
Foundation Mail Archive] wrote:

Could someone tell me what it the difference between the standard en_GB
and the OED [Oxford English] version?


Maybe I should clarify my problem: I regularly have to edit articles
for publication in a journal that conforms to Oxford Spelling
(<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_spelling>), which differs on some
points from regular BE spelling, e.g.: only forms in -ize are allowed.
In order to facilitate spell checking, I installed the OED extension
from<http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/node/1890>. Though the
extension is successfully installed (and listed by the Extension
Manager), there's apparently no way to select this dictionary for
spellchecking with the LibreOffice (3.4.2) interface, so I have
resorted to manually overwriting an installed dictionary with the OED
version.

So, it's really a matter of being able to che
ck the spelling with a
specific English locale, rather than facing a flawed en_GB dictionary.

Kind regards,

Ron


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I think Noah Webster more or less standardized US spelling. I do not
think he was trying anything anti-English but trying make the spelling
somewhat more systematic. But English spelling is wacky anyway.


Well Webster had to have some protocols to go by to change British or 
Oxford English spelling to American English spelling.  Why did "colour" 
loose the "u" to become "color" if the original spelling was the 
standard English spelling?  There seems to be too many words that are 
spelled differently in the USA, but are spelled the same in England, 
Canada, and most of the former English colonies.

Modern English has its roots in several different ancient languages used 
by the Anglo and other large tribal peoples, merged into one initial 
proto-English.  Then over the century other languages, like French, 
Spanish, and German, gave English many of its words for English to make 
part of what we now call Modern English.  As I understand it, in 
1800-1900 there were maybe 100,000 to 200,000 words in the English 
language [including the rarely used ones], while the last time I heard 
[sometime between 2000 and 2008] English has over 500,000 words.  The 
Oxford Dictionary is now 20 volumes.  Plus every year Webster's 
Dictionary "announces" the new words that are "officially" added to the 
English language and placed into their dictionary.  SO, the English 
language is growing and changing all the time.  There even are words 
that have been removed from "Modern English" since they are no longer 
used or the spelling has changed so much.  They are still in the 
unabridge versions, but not in the "smaller" versions anymore.



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