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Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call for a cleaner

Tom Davies <tomdavies04 -AT- yahoo.co.uk>
Sat, 11 Jun 2011 22:40:53 +0100 (BST)

Hi :)
You can reboot the machine with the Ubuntu Cd in and "Try it" instead of 
installing.  It's the slowest way to try Ubuntu but it's still often faster that 
way than Windows.  


Actually the 10.04 and the 10.10 are a bit quirky so i tend to choose the 
"Install it" option and then at the next page go "Back" and then try the "Try 
it" option. [sigh]  It takes maybe 10-15 mins to get to a working desktop using 
the Cd but Firefox is on the top taskbar and it's worth checking how fast that 
works at surfing a few sites.

Regards from
Tom :)





----- Original Message ----

From: Roxy Robinson <rocmar62@ranchwireless.com>
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 22:14:12
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call for a 
cleaner

I have Ubuntu 10.10 desktop CD in my desk. One of these days I hope to get to  
that, too.
That's the terrible thing about mainstream, paid for, software.  Why make it 
perfect (or as perfect as a human can) when that would end your  ongoing sales??
Roxy

Hi :)
The equivalent in gnu&linux  is/are excellent.    Plus they also do the "add" 
bit
rather well by  including search tools so that it's easy to find programs that
you might want  to have even if you can't remember their exact names.

There are sooo many  things i don't miss about the Windows world.  I feel like 
i
have broken  out of stockholm syndrome or something.  Colleagues at work often
hit  walls in Windows and are unable to cope with trivial stuff.  Makes me  
feel
so smug.  A few times i have even been able to fix things with a  LiveUsb :)
Regards from
Tom :)

----- Original Message  ----

From: Roxy Robinson <rocmar62@ranchwireless.com>
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 19:09:00
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users]  Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call for

cleaner

 Tom,
The Windows "add/remove" program is probably even worse than  its

defragger.

Revo gets pretty deep into the registry - it may  leave "main  headings" in

the

registry sometimes, but it really does  do a good job of  cleaning when it
uninstalls a program. There are  many computer "gurus", writers,  etc, that
recommend it - it seems  like anymore if you read an article, anywhere,

about

speeding up  Windows, RevoUninstaller will be mentioned. I know that it

comes

very close to removing everything of Norton AV, which is one of the  worst
programs there is to get off your computer. There are even special  NAV
uninstallers out there to help with it.
 Roxy


Hi :)

Thanks  Roxy.   Windows un-installers always tend to leave chaff behind.

It's

 practically impossible not to.  Part of the problem is that MS  'have  to'

stick

with legacy systems such as the registry in order to  be  backwards

compatible.



Generally using Windows  means committing to  re-installing it every couple

of

years or just  put-up-with the standard  slow-downs from all the chaff  and
stuff.
I found off-line defrags with  PerfectDisk helped  a lot.  Standard defrags,
especially the default MS  one can't  defrag system-files which makes them
almost
completely useless  but  Raxco's one can do Virtual Memory (=swap-file)

which

makes a  huge  difference.


This RevoUninstaller sounds like  the other part of the  equation.
Thanks and regards from
 Tom :)





-----  Original  Message ----

From: Roxy Robinson <rocmar62@ranchwireless.com>

 > To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 > Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 16:10:21

Subject: Re:  [libreoffice-users]  Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call

for

cleaner

I  would suggest  using RevoUninstaller to do ANY program uninstalling,

and

there
 >is a free version. I have used it with great success for quite a  few

years.

If

you use the 4th option from the uninstall dialog  window, it  will use the
programs normal uninstaller, first.  Then it scans for all  "leftovers"

that

has

left. You  will go through a couple of steps where  the program will show

you

what

it has found, including what is left in  the  registry. It lets you pick

and

choose what you want to delete, or  you  can choose "all" and delete. Very

seldom

have I  ever had it leave any  "crumbles" of a program I no longer wanted

on
my

machine.
On the  "open with" issue,  always be sure, when you have picked a

program

to

"open  with" from the browse window, that the little box in the   bottom,

left

hand corner of that window is checked. It says something   like  "always

open

this

type file with this  program".
Just a  couple of suggestions  that may help  you out in the future.
Roxy  Robinson

Thanks for the  start:

I   un-installed just OpenOffice and it made no difference - but I  was

on

the move

The finish went like  this:-
Un-install:- Open  office, Lotus Symphony and Libra  Office

Then in Regedit (about 2  hours):-   Delete any mention of the above  3
programs
 and  Delete:-  all mentions of soffice.exe,  swriter etc

Delete the  directories for the above in   Application Data and the
Program  folders.

Then  re-install Libra office 3.4 - it works! - I can now  use  "open

with"


Then I re-installed Lotus  Symphony 1 - that works with  "open  with"

 Then I re-installed Open office 3.3 - and now  that does NOT work   with
"open with".

So its  whoever is  installed first!

I am not  too bothered this  way  around as OpenOffice does not cater for
Lotus Smart   suite files  whilst LibreOffice does >> all praise  to

 > LibreOffice.


BUT, none of those 3 gets a star for  cleanliness  when  de-installing.

 regards

John   B

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

-
 >-

 > On  10/06/2011 21:15, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi  :)
Un-installing  OpenOffice often cures weird and  unlikely problems

especially

in

 Windows.


There is still  often a clash between OpenOffice  and LibreOffice when

both
 >are

installed on a system.  There are   some  clever ways to install both but

don't

 have a note of any  of the  various instructions and have not  compared

their

reliability or   effectiveness.


Often   the main problems occur when the  Quick Launcher/Starter  is

enabled

within

OpenOffice.  Even  without  that  they both use the same names on the

 >command-line,

such as  "soffice  --writer" so  the scope for errors and confusions is

quite

 high.


Usually just using  the "Open  with .." and then  browsing to the

relevant

 >program

is  enough to push that program to the   short-list in the "Open with

.."

option.
 >

Regards from
Tom  :)

________________________________
From:  John B<johnb@email2.me>
To: users@global.libreoffice.org

 > > Sent: Fri, 10 June, 2011 14:46:28

Subject:   [libreoffice-users] Windows  "Open with"

 > To open  a selected Document with LibreOffice does  anyone know  how to

make

LibraOffice appear in the Windows "Open  With"  (and stay  there).

Even  when I use the "browse" within the  "open  with" , then locate

 >LibreOffice

manually,  it  still does not  work,  as when I click on LibreOffice or

Writer

 (applications), its ignored and  the system jumps back  to the

browsing

list.


Also Libra  Office  does not  appear in the recommended programs  list,

whilst

OpenOffice  does  and works  fine.


Windows XP pro   sp3
Libre Office  3.3& 3.4

 > > John  B


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