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Hi :)
One advantage of using a LiveCd before there are problems on your machine is 
that you have more confidence in having a way of solving problems when they 
occur in Windows.  Also it checks that the hardware works easily by default 
before getting stuck in the middle of an install.

Anyway, if you know about partitioning then it's a fairly safe bet that you know 
what you are doing with it all.
Good luck and regards from
Tom :)




----- Original Message ----
From: Roxy Robinson <rocmar62@ranchwireless.com>
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Sun, 12 June, 2011 0:26:57
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call for a 
cleaner

I will probably just wait until I get a chance to add a partition and go ahead  
and install it. I have been fairly happy with Win7 64 so far. My boot time is  
just under a minute - a few seconds better than my XP desktop, and WAY better  
than my old Vista laptop.
Roxy


Hi :)
You can reboot the machine  with the Ubuntu Cd in and "Try it" instead of
installing.  It's the  slowest way to try Ubuntu but it's still often faster 
that
way than  Windows.


Actually the 10.04 and the 10.10 are a bit quirky so i tend  to choose the
"Install it" option and then at the next page go "Back" and  then try the "Try
it" option. [sigh]  It takes maybe 10-15 mins to get  to a working desktop 
using
the Cd but Firefox is on the top taskbar and it's  worth checking how fast 
that
works at surfing a few sites.

Regards  from
Tom :)





----- Original Message ----
From:  Roxy Robinson <rocmar62@ranchwireless.com>
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 22:14:12
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users]  Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call for 
a
cleaner

I  have Ubuntu 10.10 desktop CD in my desk. One of these days I hope to get  
to
that, too.
That's the terrible thing about mainstream, paid  for, software.  Why make 
it
perfect (or as perfect as a human can)  when that would end your  ongoing 
sales??
 Roxy


Hi :)
The equivalent in gnu&linux   is/are excellent.    Plus they also do the 
"add"
bit
 rather well by  including search tools so that it's easy to find programs  
that
you might want  to have even if you can't remember their exact  names.

There are sooo many  things i don't miss about the  Windows world.  I feel 
like
i
have broken  out of  stockholm syndrome or something.  Colleagues at work 
often
 hit  walls in Windows and are unable to cope with trivial stuff.   Makes me
feel
so smug.  A few times i have even been able to  fix things with a  LiveUsb 
:)
Regards from
Tom  :)




----- Original Message   ----
From: Roxy Robinson <rocmar62@ranchwireless.com>
 > To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 > Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 19:09:00
Subject: Re:  [libreoffice-users]  Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call  
for
a
cleaner

Tom,
The  Windows "add/remove" program is probably even worse than   its
defragger.
Revo gets pretty deep into the registry - it  may  leave "main  headings" 
in
the
registry  sometimes, but it really does  do a good job of  cleaning when  
it
uninstalls a program. There are  many computer "gurus",  writers,  etc, 
that
recommend it - it seems  like anymore  if you read an article, anywhere,
about
speeding up   Windows, RevoUninstaller will be mentioned. I know that it
comes
 >very close to removing everything of Norton AV, which is one of the   
worst
programs there is to get off your computer. There are even  special  NAV
uninstallers out there to help with it.
 > Roxy


Hi :)

 Thanks  Roxy.   Windows un-installers always tend to leave chaff  behind.
It's
practically impossible not to.  Part of  the problem is that MS  'have  
to'
stick
with  legacy systems such as the registry in order to  be   backwards
compatible.


Generally  using Windows  means committing to  re-installing it every  
couple
of
years or just  put-up-with the standard   slow-downs from all the chaff  
and
stuff.
I found  off-line defrags with  PerfectDisk helped  a lot.  Standard  
defrags,
especially the default MS  one can't  defrag  system-files which makes 
them
almost
completely  useless  but  Raxco's one can do Virtual Memory  (=swap-file)
which
makes a  huge  difference.
 >

This RevoUninstaller sounds like  the other  part of the  equation.
Thanks and regards from
 Tom :)





 > -----  Original  Message ----
From: Roxy  Robinson <rocmar62@ranchwireless.com>
 > > To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 > > Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 16:10:21
Subject:  Re:  [libreoffice-users]  Windows "Open with" - the answer -  
Call
for
a
cleaner

 > > I  would suggest  using RevoUninstaller to do ANY program  
uninstalling,
and
there
is a free version. I  have used it with great success for quite a  few
years.
 >If
you use the 4th option from the uninstall dialog   window, it  will use 
the
programs normal uninstaller,  first.  Then it scans for all  "leftovers"
that
 >has
left. You  will go through a couple of steps  where  the program will 
show
you
what
 >it has found, including what is left in  the  registry. It lets  you 
pick
and
choose what you want to delete, or   you  can choose "all" and delete. 
Very
seldom
 >have I  ever had it leave any  "crumbles" of a program I no longer  
wanted
on
my
machine.
On  the  "open with" issue,  always be sure, when you have picked  a
program
to
"open  with" from the browse  window, that the little box in the   
bottom,
left
 >hand corner of that window is checked. It says something   like   
"always
open
this
type file with this   program".
Just a  couple of suggestions  that may  help  you out in the future.
Roxy  Robinson
 > >

Thanks for the   start:

I   un-installed just OpenOffice  and it made no difference - but I  was
on
the  move

The finish went like   this:-
Un-install:- Open  office, Lotus Symphony and  Libra  Office

Then in Regedit (about  2  hours):-   Delete any mention of the above  3
 > programs
and  Delete:-  all mentions of  soffice.exe,  swriter etc

Delete  the  directories for the above in   Application Data and the
 > > Program  folders.

Then   re-install Libra office 3.4 - it works! - I can now  use   "open
with"

Then I re-installed  Lotus  Symphony 1 - that works with  "open  with"
 >
Then I re-installed Open office 3.3 - and now  that  does NOT work   
with
"open with".
 >
So its  whoever is  installed first!
 > >
I am not  too bothered this  way   around as OpenOffice does not cater 
for
Lotus Smart    suite files  whilst LibreOffice does >> all praise  to
 > > LibreOffice.

BUT, none of those 3  gets a star for  cleanliness  when  de-installing.
 >
regards

John    B
 >
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
-
 >-
-


 >


On  10/06/2011  21:15, Tom Davies wrote:
Hi  :)
 > Un-installing  OpenOffice often cures weird and  unlikely  problems
especially
in
 Windows.


 There is still  often a clash between OpenOffice  and LibreOffice  
when
both
are
installed on a  system.  There are   some  clever ways to install both  
but
i
don't
have a note of  any  of the  various instructions and have not  
compared
 >their
reliability or   effectiveness.
 > > >

Often   the  main problems occur when the  Quick Launcher/Starter  is
 enabled
within
OpenOffice.   Even  without  that  they both use the same names on the
 > >command-line,
such as  "soffice   --writer" so  the scope for errors and confusions 
is
 >quite
high.

 >
Usually just using  the "Open  with .."  and then  browsing to the
relevant
program
 > > > is  enough to push that program to the   short-list in  the "Open 
with
.."
option.
 >
Regards from
Tom   :)



 > > >

 ________________________________
From:  John B<johnb@email2.me>
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 > > > Sent: Fri, 10 June, 2011 14:46:28
 Subject:   [libreoffice-users] Windows  "Open with"
 >
To open  a selected Document with LibreOffice  does  anyone know  how 
to
make
 LibraOffice appear in the Windows "Open  With"  (and stay   there).

Even  when I use the  "browse" within the  "open  with" , then locate
 >LibreOffice
manually,  it  still does  not  work,  as when I click on LibreOffice 
or
 >Writer
(applications), its ignored and  the  system jumps back  to the
browsing
list.
 >
Also Libra  Office  does not  appear  in the recommended programs  
list,
whilst
 > OpenOffice  does  and works  fine.
 >

Windows XP pro    sp3
Libre Office  3.3& 3.4
 >
John  B

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