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Charles,

You escape the central questions raised. I'm not making accusations, I'm
bringing facts here in Brazil and TDF should at least find out if what
I'm saying is true or not instead of accusing me of lying as you are
doing. By the way, you are a Olivier's lawyer?

I'm seeing some things very clear after this discussion. Another message
stated that it is necessary sponsorship to be a member of TDF. I want to
believe that Olivier was godfather Eliane Domingos, which is perfectly
normal. But he denies this, as it can be seen here:
http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/pt-br/usuarios/msg00785.html
Then I ask who's lying?

Luiz
Luiz,

2011/5/12 luiz <lcoluiggi@gmail.com>

Hi,

On Wed, 2011-05-11 at 17:17 +0000, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
And this recalls another concern of ours: there are 4 brazilians as
TDF members/founders.
I count 3: Claudio, David and Olivier.
Eliane Domingos is the fourth.

//drew

I'm very curious to know what the criterion for immediate her
acceptance. And the Paulo refused. Most translations of the Brazilian
portal (pt-br.libreoffice.org) was that he didand other contributors,
but who signed? I answer: Eliane and Gustavo and Olivier...


So all this discussion, Luiz, seems to really be about the fact that the
Brazilian community has interpersonal problems.
And now you are now second-guessing and badmouthing the Membership committee
(of which I'm not part).
Obviously this may not exactly be the best way to carry your message....


You know why only Olivier translates LibreOffice (l10n)to Brazilian
portuguese? Because he does not let anyone else help. Now, Rogério Luz
is trying to help. But I think it is not easy.


Perhaps it's because this is the marketing list and you don't feel bound by
the reality of development and localization process.
Just take a look at the l10n infrastructure and process, and you might
realize that your words are not very credible. We've released LibreOffice
3.3, 3.3.1, 3.3.2, and we're now on beta stage of the 3.4. After 7 months
you are complaining you 're being bullied by Olivier? Sorry, but I get the
feeling that your accusations become more extreme at each email.


Best,
Charles.



Luiz Oliveira


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