Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Brazilian domains

Hi :)
Ok, i cut the thread down quite a LOT.  The message seems to be 
1.  That the domains and websites are safe according to Paulo, Clovis and 
Bernhard (details differ but result is that things are safe)

2.  The community and individuals are doing a gradual change-over to the new 
names in a smooth gradual way as laid out in much detail in many posts to this 
list.
3.  Some redirects have gone a bit wrong  and there are a few errors that may or 
may not be deliberate.  This is normal and it's normal to be annoyed about it 
but it 'just' needs fixing.  

4.  Some people are not great at working with people but are superb at getting 
on with tasks they perceive as being vital.  Again, that is normal.  Hopefully 
we can fix some possibly wrong moves once the community has decided what needs 
to be done.  If what has already been done is too different then hopefully we 
can move to what the community has decided.  

5.  We need to stop panicking and doing "knee jerk reactions" because (despite 
all the excitement) things seem to be progressing  quite well!!
Good luck and regards from
Tom :)





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From: Paulo de Souza Lima <paulo.s.lima@gmail.com>
To: marketing@libreoffice.org
Sent: Wed, 11 May, 2011 2:32:57
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Brazilian domains

2011/5/10 Bernhard Dippold <bernhard@familie-dippold.at>

> Hi Paulo, all,

Hi.


> Paulo S. Lima wrote:
> > 2011/5/9 Tom Davies <tomdavies04@yahoo.co.uk>
> >
> > > [...]
> > >
> > > Paulo, is there a danger of losing the Brazilian websites due to Brazilian 
> law?  If that danger does exist then is it a problem that needs to be solved 
> urgently?
> > >
> >
> > The websites itself? No. Domains? maybe. Until the NGO is not completely 
> undone (legaly talking...) the domains are safe. Once the NGO is competely over, 
> the domain must be transfered to another NGO (and it MUST be an NGO, not a 
> person or a private company).
>
> If I understand you right, the domains have to be owned by an NGO, or they
> don't exist / are not accessible on the web.

No.Every domain registration has a time to expire. When expiring is
closing, the owner receives a message about it and, if he wants, he pays
another fare and maintain that domain for another period of time (from 1 to
3 years, i think).

If NGO ends its activities,domain will remain in it's name, until expiration. 
After that, it will be available for anyone (who has anlegalized brazilian NGO) 
to register it.

> And if they exist, Brazilian people know by their extension (.org.br), that 
> they
> relate to an NGO dedicated to LibreOffice and TDF.
>
> When the present NGO is undone, the website will become inactive.

No, the correct situation is: when the domain paid period expire.


<snip>  ... [lots of important comments that could (mostly) be in separate 
threads including mention of a redirect] ... </snip>

That's part of our strategy to switch from BrOffice to Libreoffice trade
mark. The passes to slightly switch without chock people were: 1 - Put an
advertise redirecting to the old website (but with the new domain). 2 - Move
the domain to pt-br.libreoffice.org as soon as the most accessed content
were migrated to TDF. 3 - End up the old website moving the remaining
content to TDF or deleting stuff we don't need.

<snip>  ... [again, lots of important comments that could (mostly) be in  
separate threads] ... </snip>

Many thanks for allowing us to tell you our point of view. You are the first
to do it. I expect more people begin to dialogue with us, instead of
fighting us. We don't want to fight anybody. Brazilians are friendly people
who love peace, fun and joy. This situation is very unpleasant.

Kind regards

<http://pt-br.libreoffice.org>
Paulo de Souza Lima
Técnico em Eletrônica e Administrador
http://www.pasl.net.br
http://almalivre.wordpress.com
Curitiba - PR
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