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Le 2010-11-22 04:17, Thorsten Wilms a écrit :
On Sun, 2010-11-21 at 16:29 -0500, Marc Paré wrote:

Personally I think that this type of organisation is a bit too late
unless everyone is on board and most of OOo members are used to working
under the common understanding of Marketing and Design understanding.

You mentioned philosophical differences regarding these terms yourself.
There is no common understanding, it seems.


I also do not think that we should try to exclude common practice use of
the words Marketing and Design. So ... I see the organisation, as it
stands, if we are to apply common sense with the structure that we now
have:

* Marketing is the top tier category
* Design falls under the Marketing umbrella

If you define marketing from its original root of being about selling
things, it's a strange fit for volunteer work and a product offered for
free. Marketing takes the point of view of the producer/provider and has
his interests in mind as driving forces.

Thus if you place design below marketing, it becomes a mere tool to
serve the interests of the producer/provider. If you don't, design can
place the interests of users first (user centered design, user
experience design).


As you point out by your reasoning, Design and Marketing can be described in either way depending on the person's point of view. Design can rule the world or Marketing can rule the world. Whether a product is sold for free or for gain does not matter. An argument that has no definitive answer except for the person who has the deciding voice.

You are to read into to this and decide if this was said by design. LOL :-)

Marc


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