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Le 2010-11-21 11:23, Thorsten Wilms a écrit :
On Sun, 2010-11-21 at 06:13 -0500, Marc Paré wrote:

I propose that we keep the "ideas" section, but that we have two
internal sections: one section for "design related ideas" and another
with "marketing-related ideas". This will keep it simple and both teams
will be aware of what project have been suggested for both sides. This
will keep us all tuned in.

I propose the above format as there are still some differing
philosophical views on (...)
Design vs Marketing, yes.

If you apply some of the broader definitions, you can both conclude that
Design touches everything and also that Marketing touches everything.
Originally marketing may have been all about selling and design all
about look and haptics, but both are starting positions where you end up
covering the entire system if you run long enough.

What if we try to avoid both terms?
(if not combined with a more specific field)

* Steering (mission statement and strategy go here)
* Visual Identity (starting from the logo)
* Market Research
* Promotion (bound to have overlap with Visual Identity, sadly)
* Relations (could have an internal partner, called Community)
* Services (to outside the project)
* Documentation
* Infrastructure (contains website, similar to Services, but inside)
* UX Design (solely for the product)

A bit late for the lists, but the wiki is ductile, right?


Personally I think that this type of organisation is a bit too late unless everyone is on board and most of OOo members are used to working under the common understanding of Marketing and Design understanding. I also do not think that we should try to exclude common practice use of the words Marketing and Design. So ... I see the organisation, as it stands, if we are to apply common sense with the structure that we now have:

* Marketing is the top tier category
* Design falls under the Marketing umbrella

This will keep it really simple. For the purpose of working efficiency, Design now has its own mailist. The wiki worskpace should then be in

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Design <-- this is where you pronounce the reasons of Design

Then presumably if there were any pages to for Design purposes the wiki pages would be created here:

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Design/TheNameYouWant

How does this sound?

Marc




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