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Hey Drew,

Am 01.11.2010 12:16, schrieb Drew Jensen:
On Mon, 2010-11-01 at 11:22 +0100, Florian Effenberger wrote:

Drew Jensen wrote on 2010-11-01 11.21:
Where can I find the financial disclosure for the legal entity known as Deutschland e.V ?

why would you need that?

Well, for a month now you have in reality been collecting donations in
and spending money in, my name.

Well, I have made in regular intervals a report about foundings and cost
- last one was send Oct, 16, 2010 to the ooofuture list.

I add the content below.

Next report will follow soon (I will make monthly reports in future -
starting november :-) )

So - dont worry, everything is transparent.

Best regards
Thomas Krumbein


-------- Original-Nachricht --------
Betreff: [ooofuture] missing business concept / first overview figures
Datum: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 12:11:15 +0200
Von: Thomas Krumbein <>
Antwort an:

Hey all,

as you know, the OOoDeV temporaly take over the cost and founds for the
upcoming TDF.

So I will give you now a first overview about those figures:

Since Sep, 28 we recieved a lot of small to very small amounts of money
mainly via PayPal - so PayPal charge some fees of each recieved amount.
The sums are:
recieved from Sep, 28 to Sep., 30 :    939,76 EUR
recieves form Oct, 01 to Oct, 15  :    709,36 EUR
additional recieved via bank account:  201,00 EUR
Founds summery:                      1.850,03 EUR

Costs since starting up the Foundation:
Mainly hardware (Server) cost and domain-registration, up to now:
                            467,07 EUR
Fees for trademark "LibreOffice" and "The Document Foundation":
                                     1.800,00 EUR
Costs for the layer (not payed jet) appr.
                                     2.000,- EUR.
Sum costs:                           4.267,07 EUR

That means, up to now we do have a deficit of appr. 2.400,- EUR.

OK, what I missed: we got lot of small ammount donations (10 US$, 5 EUR,
20 CAD, ...), but there is no ammount higher then 100 EUR. All donations
we recieved from privat persons - I did not see a company transfer.

We do have a lot of "support statements" on our webside - but those
words did not follow any actions...

Looking forward to set up the foundation it is not done with "nice
words", we need money. We need a typical business-plan, which figure
out, how many money is needed and where we will get it. I haven´t see
anything like this?

Looking forward to the foundation: the foundation will need money - as a
found stock (should be as high as possible) and for "daily work" - so
ervery oranisation has costs during the year - means government fees,
tax, account fees, founding fees, server costs and so on.
This costs could not be covered with those small donations as recieved

So, any idears? Is someone working on this?

best regards


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