Re: [libreoffice-l10n] New Pootle Critical errors

Den 30.05.2015 14:36, Dwayne Bailey skreiv:
> On 30 May 2015 at 12:51, Kolbjørn Stuestøl <kolbjoern@stuestoel.no 
> <mailto:kolbjoern@stuestoel.no>> wrote:
>
>     The new version looks fine but I do have problems with the
>     "Critical errors".
>     Some examples:
>     When translating a plain text, for example "Print Preview Bar" and
>     inserting XML tags ("Print <emph>Preview Bar</emph>") in the
>     translated text I get an error. Error message: XML tags.
>
>
> Ideally, please point to a specific unit, you can get the permalink 
> from the unit number at the end of the breadcrumbs for the unit you 
> are editing.
Sorry, wasn't aware of that. But in this case it applies to all units.
> Also note.  The checks have not changed.  The editor has changed in 
> that it prevents a Critical failure from being submitted to Pootle.  
> The logic is that we want to stop breakages much much earlier in the 
> process.
>
> Now the check is right (the check is also dumb).  There is no <emph> 
> in the source, so it assume that you've likely broken something.  Its 
> XML and thus its risky.
>
> Because you know better you can click on the Mute symbol. The small 
> (-) after the check name.  If a check is muted it means you've 
> signaled that it is a false positive and Pootle should ignore it for 
> that unit.
Wasn't aware of this either. Thought it was a warning sign or something 
:-). Thank you.
>     If I insert the quotation marks « and » ( instead of the " and "),
>     press Send and then open it again, it is opened with the error
>     message "Double quotes" and the Send button is grayed out.
>
>
> So quote are not critical.  Pootle has actually accepted the unit but 
> warned that your quotes are different.
>
> Which raises another issue.  We build rules for languages to take into 
> consideration their specific quoting styles. This reduces false 
> positives on quotes.
>
> If you can let me know for nn what the quoting style is then I can add 
> that.
For Norwegian bokmål (language code nb) and nynorsk (nn) the recommended 
quotes are
At start « (Unicode hex 00AB); at end » (Unicode hex 00BB).
I do not think we needs the quote in quote characters neither the quotes 
in quotes in quotes.
Is it possible to use the <quote> tag and let LibreOffice "translate" it 
to the language used?
Kolbjørn
>     Translating "Print Statement [Runtime]" to "Print-uttrykk
>     [køyretid]" returns the error "Placeholders". Inserting the
>     original text into my translation using the + button or by copy
>     and paste, pressing Send works as normal. Changing my text to
>     "Print-uttrykk [Rundtime]" it is accepted, but "Print-uttrykk" or,
>     as mentioned above, "Print-uttrykk [køyretid]" is not. Error
>     message: Placeholders.
>
>
> Yip false positive again.
>
> I need some help here.  For OpenOffice.org [XXX] was used as a 
> variable in some files.  With the change to use PO directly in 
> LibreOffice I'm not sure if that has changed.  In fact if someone has 
> an idea of the correct variable styles for LO across the project I can 
> likely remove some redundant ones.
>
>
>     Tried on LibreOffice 4.4 - Help. Windows 7. Norwegian nynorsk (nn)
>     translation.
>
>
> Thanks for the testing.


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