Re: [libreoffice-design] Sidebar Survey

Hi.

On 2016-02-26 10:41, Yousuf 'Jay' Philips wrote:
> Hi Pedro,
>
> On 02/25/2016 04:34 PM, Pedro Rosmaninho wrote:
> > Anyway, I would just like to make a proposal for changing one aspect 
> > of the
> > behaviour of the Sidebar and toolbar. Right now on LO 5.1 when a certain
> > object like charts or pictures or symbols is selected there is a
> > duplication of formatting options that appear on the Sidebar and also on
> > the toolbars.
>
> There isnt a duplication if you choose not to use the sidebar or not 
> use the properties tab of the sidebar. Many users choose not to use 
> the sidebar or are at a screen resolution that doesnt make sense to 
> use it (e.g. 1024x768). For users who prefer/want to use the sidebar, 
> we should make it easy for them to switch to a sidebar mode (tdf#92220).
Agree with the easy switching. I work mostly with 2 or 3 documents side 
by side and the sidebar is a hindrance. If there is no way to continue 
without use of the side bar (styles and formatting?) there should be a 
hotkey for the side bar and side bar coming and going should not cause 
the application window size to change. Currently there is one styles 
panel that floats about for my 3 documents, it would be wasted space to 
have 3 styles panels open at once but a hotkey to open the panel as 
required could work.
> > IMO, when selecting an object the formatting properties for that object
> > should appear only in the Sidebar (as is the case even in Microsoft 
> > Office
> > 2013 where they have a sidebar of sorts).
>
> MSO keeps the basic formatting properties in the ribbon and the 
> advanced stuff would open in a dialog and recently a few of those 
> dialogs have been replaced with a left side panel. (e.g. select a 
> shape and you are given the Drawing Tools Format ribbon tab and users 
> can open a Format Shape side panel to modify all the shape's 
> properties more easily)
>
> >   And not have the same commands showing up also in the toolbar 
> > cluttering
> > it (also the Sidebar invariably shows more commands than the toolbar and
> > allows for easier understanding of what each command is since they 
> > usually
> > also include text and category names.
>
> Unfortunately the sidebar isnt complete enough to get rid of all the 
> toolbars. e.g. table toolbar, outline toolbar, drawing object 
> properties toolbar, ...
>
> > Also, just as in Impress the text formating toolbar disappeared since 
> > most
> > of its functions are present in the Sidebar I would propose to remove 
> > the
> > text Formatting toolbar in Writer and Calc to have coherence between the
> > three main modules of LO and because those functions are duplicated 
> > in the
> > Sidebar and toolbar.
>
> With Impress, it has always had a side panel that was open and when 
> the new sidebar was integrated in 4.2, it made the case for the hiding 
> of the contextual formatting toolbars by default a good choice, 
> especially when users want to see more of their slide. Writer and Calc 
> arent in the same boat, but Draw was so it was changed to a sidebar 
> mode by default.
>
> Yousuf


--
To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscribe@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted