Re: [libreoffice-design] Template Manager - Design issues

Hi Rafael,

sorry for taking so long to answer – it took me a while to get a new master
build (somehow the --without-java option seems buggy atm).

On 9 April 2013 16:56, Rafael Dominguez <venccsralph@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > - Import and Export icons are the same
> > No, they are different. Maybe the difference is too subtle then?
> Well thats what i says in
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Templates_and_documents_rework/Design_Bugs
> i was just trying to remember it.

Ah, right, I already forgot about that – I added my bugs to there. Perhaps we
should adopt a lightweight priority system there. (We only have to make sure we
don't replicate Bugzilla there.)


> i invite you to try the latest master build, i been working on squashing a
> few bugs
> and working on the pending ones.

Yes, that's true, thanks.


> >   * Using "Set as default" makes LibreOffice crash when trying to use
> >     the newly set default template (Try with one of Impress's
> >     presentation backgrounds)
> Cant reproduce in latest master build

Can still reproduce in my own build (Linux, x64) – will try a pre-built Windows
build soon.


> I think in the end will just go for  adding a checkbox in the open dialog to
> edit templates

I guess that's the best way to do it after all ... not sure why we discarded the
idea in the bug.



> >   * Can't selectively copy over styles from a template into current
> >     document (regression, don't know bug no.) [design needed]
> I'm not really sure this would belong to the template manager, but more into
> the Styles and Formatting dialog through the load styles action

Right, but it will touch the templates dialogue too...


> >   * "Sort by name" has large Galaxy icon (looks like Alex's instead of
> >     default) amidst smaller Tango icons
> Well you can provide me with the icon or change it yourself if you want

Yes, I can change that myself


> >   * Down-arrow should jump to last item when there is no item
> >     immediately below current item
> Cant reproduce in latest master build

Can still reproduce – a little ASCII art to explain it:
* = icon
|*| = selected icon
:*: = icon that should be selected when [↓]

  *   *  |*|
  *  :*:


> >   * Tabs blink incessantly blinking when moving mouse over them
> OS?

Linux, x86-64, with GTK2


> >   * Creating a new folder should not need a dialog (just add a folder
> >     "Untitled Folder" and let the user edit the name of it in place)
> Its a better approach but dunno how to make it work consistently for all
> languages,
> i know we can localize the name but numbers??

Not sure what you mean... what numbers?
(I am arguing for not having the New Folder dialogue, and instead just putting a
new folder in the view that is already in name-editing mode, like you can in
file managers)


> >   * It should be possible to create a new (empty) template (editing
> >     would happen via the edit button, but there should be some more
> >     help, like displaying big Edit button on thumbnail) [design needed]
> Well i discussed that one with cedric and we settled that we should add a
> blank item
> so users can create a new blank document of the desired type, but if they
> edit it, it wont be a blank
> document.

Ah, that's another issue, I was talking about creating a new template not a
regular document – we scrapped that feature initially, but it would be good to
revive it, I guess.


> >   * Renaming templates is too easy (just click once on the name of the
> >     template)
> What you propose instead?

The template should be selected at least. See the wiki page for more
explanation.


> You mean like a visual feedback that the template is the default one?

Yes, exactly.


> >   * Resetting default templates is a bit complicated – maybe we can
> >     remove the submenu there since the category is already chosen [is
> >     that a bug]
>
>
> Well i just did it as the old dialog, since that wasnt in the design, any
> ideas are welcome
> and well i think its more convenient

I'll try to add something to the wiki. (If I don't forget.)


> >   * Can't search/sort/refresh/reset default as long as a template is
> >     selected
> Fixed in latest master and will land in 4.0.3 too

Thanks!


> >   * Maybe a more obvious way of closing the search bar might be helpful
> >     [is that a bug?]
> Like?

A little X button at the end– but I'd still rather discuss that before you go
for this


> >   * Unnecessary whitespace at below of template names – grid should
> >     resize a bit more flexibly
> >   * No continuous scrolling in template list
> >   * No big, obvious Open button
> So we have a more visible action besides double click?

Exactly.

> >   * Selection state persists across tabs – user gets irrelevant toolbar
> >     actions
> Fixed in latest master

Works! Thanks.

Astron.

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