Re: [libreoffice-design] Experimental new LibreOffice UI

Hi Keith,

Le 06/04/2013 01:30, Keith Curtis a écrit :
> Hi all;
>
> I've written a proposal for a new experimental UI for LibreOffice Writer:
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:KeithCu

That proposal is light years away from being a UX design proposal. Really.

Just compare it with :
- http://design.canonical.com/2013/04/core-utility-apps-process-update/
- 
http://design.canonical.com/2013/03/app-patterns-applied-weather-key-journeys/
- 
http://design.canonical.com/2013/03/app-patterns-applied-clock-key-journeys/

Have you seen all details for just a simple use case ?
(and read all entries about Ubuntu touch from that blog)

and some references by one of the most important designer :
- http://www.nngroup.com/articles/top-10-application-design-mistakes/
- http://www.nngroup.com/articles/iterative-design/
- http://www.nngroup.com/articles/paper-prototyping/
- http://www.nngroup.com/articles/usability-101-introduction-to-usability/
- http://www.nngroup.com/articles/why-you-only-need-to-test-with-5-users/
- http://www.nngroup.com/articles/the-myth-of-the-genius-designer/
- http://www.nngroup.com/reports/paper-prototyping-training-video/
- 
http://www.nngroup.com/articles/first-rule-of-usability-dont-listen-to-users/
- http://www.nngroup.com/articles/thinking-aloud-the-1-usability-tool/




> In a few weeks Matúš Kukan will have an empty Python prototype ready
> to be filled in.

Please realize that the developer must have infinitely more informations 
before starting any line of code.

> After that, it becomes a question of what it should look like. The
> bitmap I included on the wiki page was just some pretty example I dug
> up on the web, but I could imagine others, including perhaps one that
> is on the top rather than the side. Anything you guys can draw could
> be mostly implemented in a few months (assuming one person full-time)
> in Python. No one is signed up to hack on that yet, Matúš is just
> making an empty toolbar, but it needs a bitmap first anyway.

You use term "look like", "bitmap", "draw" just as if you were a graphic 
designer.
But UX design is NOT drawing or painting, it's about sketching, creating 
mockups and prototypes.

I suggest you to use a real sketching tool : pencil 2.X
http://pencil.evolus.vn/

And then :
- define some use cases
- for each use case, create sketches with pencil that describe your 
proposal ; sketches must be as precise as possible
- take time and then enhance, simplify... iterate over your proposal
- when you have something stable, publish and ask feed-back
- you'll need to iterate again and again before having a rela proposal


> It would be nice to get a more official "next-gen" UI Writer design.

+1
but a complete UI for all modules of LO will require *a lot* of time and 
work !

> Do you guys have one?

I don't think so.
The TDF should define a kind of goals/objectives/roadmap upon which we 
can build something.

Michel


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