Re: [libreoffice-design] Icons: Testing the Design Process

Hi

I was looking in LIbO source and I discovered icons are "localized" : There
is a font a font for franch icon (example : B for Bold is G for Gras). So
it seems we can have localised icons, not using letter A but corresponding
letter

2012/2/26 Mirek M. <mazelm@gmail.com>

> Hi Kévin, Adolfo, everyone,
>
> 2012/2/26 Kévin PEIGNOT <peignot.kevin@kpeignot.fr>
>
> > Hi Mirek, Adolfo ...
> >
> > First, on the design process, it looks me great, except 1 week seems me
> too
> > short (sometimes people can't come one the mailing list). SO maybe two
> > weeks would be better
>
> It would only be one week if nobody answers the initial e-mail. This is
> just a way to get people to answer these e-mails in due time and prevent a
> rough draft being stuck in limbo.
>
> Once an issue is raised, the time limit is dissolved.
>
> > Then, even if I think your icons are a good idea, and more logical than
> > usual ones, we should keep usual symbols to avoid confusion for people
> and
> > beginners. I can't find free desktop recommendations for this, maybe
> > someone know if they just exist ?
>
> I remember in my days as a computer noob, I had no idea about what the
> "scissors" icon did. Its name "Cut" didn't give me any clues about its
> functionality. Once I thought it was the "Crop" icon and was surprised when
> clicking the icon took the whole image away. I then assumed it was the same
> as "Delete".
>
> I understand that the same symbolism should be kept across all applications
> -- I'm all for that. But I think that, just like the floppy disk save icon,
> this is a historical remnant that should evolve. If we agree that the new
> symbolism is clearer and more usable than the old one, we should push for
> applications to adopt it. (The same is happening with the save icon
> nowadays.)
>
> The new symbolism shouldn't be that foreign to users, though. The clipboard
> symbol connects the three clipboard icons. Then there are those familiar
> "move" and "copy" symbols that users know from file management. And a user
> familiar with the old "cut" and "copy" icons, but unfamiliar with the
> "Ctrl+X" and "Ctrl+C" shortcuts, can familiarize himself with the new
> icons, as they appear in the Edit menu and the right-click menu with
> labels, as they appear in the same place on the toolbar as the old icons,
> and as tooltips appear over the toolbar icons on hover.
>
> > Kévin
> >
> > 2012/2/26 Adolfo Jayme Barrientos <fitoschido@gmail.com>
> >
> > > Why abandon the classic symbol paradigm? I don’t think that the
> > > proposed symbols are recognizable in a glance anymore.
> > >
> > > On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 6:27 PM, Mirek M. <mazelm@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Hi everyone,
> > > > I've put up a design process on the wiki page (@
> > > > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/Flat_icon_set
> ).
> > > > Please go take a look at it.
> > > >
> > > > I also submitted rough drafts for three icons: Paste, Cut, and Copy.
> > > > They're unlike all Cut and Copy icons I've seen so far -- instead of
> > > > showing scissors and stacks of papers, they use the same symbols as
> > > moving
> > > > an copying with files (an arrow and a plus icon).
> > > >
> > > > According to the drafted design process, the icons will be marked
> > > > "approved" if nobody answers to this e-mail within a week, so please
> > > > respond, comment, critique, iterate, so that we can begin to do this.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks. :)
> > > >
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