Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: New icon set

Hi all!

I'm currently going through some of the mails written during the last
weeks ...

Am Mittwoch, den 15.02.2012, 14:08 +0100 schrieb Stefan Knorr (Astron):
> Hi,
>
> On 15 February 2012 13:50, Charles-H.Schulz
> <charles.schulz@documentfoundation.org> wrote:
>
> > - Do we want a reference set of icons?
>
> Mostly, we want to have a well-maintained set of icons.

Weither it is called "reference set", or "well-maintained set", I
strongly agree to the general idea here.

> Currently,
> none of the themes meet that definition, as all of them lack icons for
> certain actions. That's one of the reasons why I am not exactly 100%
> behind creating a completely new icon set – I think, fixing Tango
> should go first. Why? Tango may not be everyone's favourite theme
> (neither are monochrome icons, ... I digress), but
> a) it has an established visual style
> b) it's not so hard to find free/license-compliant Tango icons on the internet
> c) the theme already exists and only needs extending and updating.
> Nevertheless, if people come up with a new, substantial set of quality
> icons, I'll do my best to get it into LibO.

Well, I'd like to add two additional thoughts here:
      * If we stick with Tango, we might loose some people interested in
        icon design, since working on something established is usually
        less desired than creating something new. But, since creating
        something new (a huge set in a good quality) is an enormous
        task, going for Tango seems indeed better.
      * I know from talks with Stella (the designer of the e.g. Galaxy
        icon set for OpenOffice.org) that she needed lots (!) of time to
        cope with the enormous number of icons and thus "unique"
        metaphors. So working on an existing set will help us to create
        a basis for a new set.

The good thing about Tango is, that these are used within several FLOSS
applications and that some designers already were so kind to provide
this or that icon whilst we lacked designers to provide an own version.

> > - Should we have specific icons for each platform (Tango anyone?)
>
> Only if we can afford it. Currently, we can't really, since there are
> so many icons and they are so disorganised and also none of our themes
> is complete.

Well, looking at the current situation of skilled designers being ready
to work on the icons, I doubt that we can (at the very moment) afford
platform specific icons - although being helpful. I know that Mozilla
worked out such platform specifics for Firefox some years ago, but the
number of icons being shown per default is rather low (in contrast to
LibO).

However, since we discuss this issue from time to time, wouldn't it be
helpful to document a decision by the Design Team? But, of course, this
needs some consensus ... basically, it is a sub-decision about the
general visual design of LibO. Opinions, anyone?

For the curious, some years back I looked from time at the "Oxygen
Icons" project. A team of designers started working on a new set of
icons for the upcoming KDE 4 ... starting with style and metaphor work,
having numerous iterations etc.
http://www.oxygen-icons.org/

[...]

Cheers,
Christoph


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