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Þann mán 20.feb 2012 20:00, skrifaði Christoph Noack:

 Am Mittwoch, den 15.02.2012, 14:08 +0100 schrieb Stefan Knorr (Astron):


On 15 February 2012 13:50, Charles-H.Schulz

 - Do we want a reference set of icons?

Mostly, we want to have a well-maintained set of icons.

Weither it is called "reference set", or "well-maintained set", I
strongly agree to the general idea here.

none of the themes meet that definition, as all of them lack icons for
certain actions. That's one of the reasons why I am not exactly 100%
behind creating a completely new icon set – I think, fixing Tango
should go first. Why? Tango may not be everyone's favourite theme
(neither are monochrome icons, ... I digress), but
a) it has an established visual style
b) it's not so hard to find free/license-compliant Tango icons on the
c) the theme already exists and only needs extending and updating.
Nevertheless, if people come up with a new, substantial set of quality
icons, I'll do my best to get it into LibO.

Well, I'd like to add two additional thoughts here:
      * If we stick with Tango, we might loose some people interested in
        icon design, since working on something established is usually
        less desired than creating something new. But, since creating
        something new (a huge set in a good quality) is an enormous
        task, going for Tango seems indeed better.
      * I know from talks with Stella (the designer of the e.g. Galaxy
        icon set for that she needed lots (!) of time to
        cope with the enormous number of icons and thus "unique"
        metaphors. So working on an existing set will help us to create
        a basis for a new set.


However, since we discuss this issue from time to time, wouldn't it be
helpful to document a decision by the Design Team? But, of course, this
needs some consensus ... basically, it is a sub-decision about the
general visual design of LibO. Opinions, anyone?

Some (humble) feedback:

I think a good first step would be to clearly document all the icons
needed in LibreOffice, naming conventions and other criteria (size, uses,
fileformat, etc...) Maybe the result could be a sort of icon-map table
(similar to a character map) for LibreOffice. Maybe this exists already but
I haven't found it yet. There's some useful info on <https://wiki.****Whiteboards/LibreOffice_**Initial_Icons<>

I agree, maybe we should use a wikipage for that (Something like that - Scuse
me I don't have time to make more today but it's a starting point)

Working on a couple of existing icon sets (Tango + Oxygen?) should not be
that difficult if there are good design guidelines for each and if
interested people could easily see which icons are missing.

Then there might be work on new sets; personally I would never use a
monochrome set (even with some integrated color coding) - but I admire
Mirek's design in its simplicity and I think it will appeal to many people.
Guess my visual detectors are spoiled with colors and forms ;-)

I'm sure we should officially maintain one icon theme (and its variant as
High Contrast) not more. But to choose whether to maintain a monochrome (as
Mirek Proposal) or colorful one, we should list positives and negatives for
each case, UX speaking (not thinking "It is beautiful / It's not beautiful"
: Everyone will have a different opinion on this), just thinking : "How can
it help users of LibO ?" And list this on the Wiki.

So, I really think there should be choice by default, e.g. one darkish
stylish theme, an institutional one and a cheering colorful one. For

The institutional and Darkish ones, as they are monochrome, can be
considered as One icon set to design I suppose, just changing their colour
then... Maybe changing color is possible within the software (having a
basic icon, and software change it's color automatically ?) The colorful
one can stay the Tango one in my way (even if I prefer Human)

And we mustn't forget the High Contrast one

Finally; even though the compilation/creation of icon themes for
LibreOffice should be coordinated at LO/TDF, shouldn't we explore the
possibility of doing the actual design in cooperation with other
icon-design sites, especially for the existing themes ?

Just thoughts.

Best regards,
Sveinn í Felli


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