Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: New icon set

Þann mán 20.feb 2012 20:00, skrifaði Christoph Noack:
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> Am Mittwoch, den 15.02.2012, 14:08 +0100 schrieb Stefan Knorr (Astron):
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> > On 15 February 2012 13:50, Charles-H.Schulz
> > <charles.schulz@documentfoundation.org>  wrote:
> >
> > > - Do we want a reference set of icons?
> >
> > Mostly, we want to have a well-maintained set of icons.
>
> Weither it is called "reference set", or "well-maintained set", I
> strongly agree to the general idea here.
>
> > Currently,
> > none of the themes meet that definition, as all of them lack icons for
> > certain actions. That's one of the reasons why I am not exactly 100%
> > behind creating a completely new icon set – I think, fixing Tango
> > should go first. Why? Tango may not be everyone's favourite theme
> > (neither are monochrome icons, ... I digress), but
> > a) it has an established visual style
> > b) it's not so hard to find free/license-compliant Tango icons on the internet
> > c) the theme already exists and only needs extending and updating.
> > Nevertheless, if people come up with a new, substantial set of quality
> > icons, I'll do my best to get it into LibO.
>
> Well, I'd like to add two additional thoughts here:
>        * If we stick with Tango, we might loose some people interested in
>          icon design, since working on something established is usually
>          less desired than creating something new. But, since creating
>          something new (a huge set in a good quality) is an enormous
>          task, going for Tango seems indeed better.
>        * I know from talks with Stella (the designer of the e.g. Galaxy
>          icon set for OpenOffice.org) that she needed lots (!) of time to
>          cope with the enormous number of icons and thus "unique"
>          metaphors. So working on an existing set will help us to create
>          a basis for a new set.
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> However, since we discuss this issue from time to time, wouldn't it be
> helpful to document a decision by the Design Team? But, of course, this
> needs some consensus ... basically, it is a sub-decision about the
> general visual design of LibO. Opinions, anyone?

Some (humble) feedback:

I think a good first step would be to clearly document all 
the icons needed in LibreOffice, naming conventions and 
other criteria (size, uses, fileformat, etc...) Maybe the 
result could be a sort of icon-map table (similar to a 
character map) for LibreOffice. Maybe this exists already 
but I haven't found it yet. There's some useful info on 
<https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/LibreOffice_Initial_Icons>.

Working on a couple of existing icon sets (Tango + Oxygen?) 
should not be that difficult if there are good design 
guidelines for each and if interested people could easily 
see which icons are missing.

Then there might be work on new sets; personally I would 
never use a monochrome set (even with some integrated color 
coding) - but I admire Mirek's design in its simplicity and 
I think it will appeal to many people. Guess my visual 
detectors are spoiled with colors and forms ;-)

So, I really think there should be choice by default, e.g. 
one darkish stylish theme, an institutional one and a 
cheering colorful one. For example.

Finally; even though the compilation/creation of icon themes 
for LibreOffice should be coordinated at LO/TDF, shouldn't 
we explore the possibility of doing the actual design in 
cooperation with other icon-design sites, especially for the 
existing themes ?

Just thoughts.

Best regards,
Sveinn í Felli


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