Re: Share the "how to collaborate"? (was: Re: [libreoffice-design] New web banners. Feedback?)

hi christoph

So I felt free to add some
> introduction, changed the formatting / numbering a bit, added a license
> recommendation, and changed the text a bit. Concerning the latter, my
> aim was to emphasize the personal contribution ... I hope that's fine
> for you.

yes, of course :)
and the formatting is way better now, thanks a lot!

What's the next thing you'd like to improve? ;-)


uhmm, i guess this is ok for now. it's not too long, which means new
contributors can read through it in a few minutes, but it contains all the
important things they should be aware of when making contributions.
the only thing i'd add is a link to this page from the "get started" page
(if there is one) or from the "design kick off" page.

tobias

2011/10/29 Christoph Noack <christoph@dogmatux.com>

> Hi Tobias!
>
> First, thanks for the help :-)
>
> Am Freitag, den 28.10.2011, 17:51 +0200 schrieb Tobias Bernard:
> > hi all
> >
> > after some busy weeks where i've been absent from the mailing list,
> here's a
> > first draft for the collaboration wiki text.
> > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Collaboration
> >
> > as i said, i don't have a lot of experience with mediawiki, so the
> > formatting could probably be better and there are probably still some
> > language errors ;)
> > what do you think?
>
> That's great - it is much simpler to refine something once its there,
> than having to create something new. So I felt free to add some
> introduction, changed the formatting / numbering a bit, added a license
> recommendation, and changed the text a bit. Concerning the latter, my
> aim was to emphasize the personal contribution ... I hope that's fine
> for you.
>
> Thanks a lot! What's the next thing you'd like to improve? ;-)
>
> Cheers,
> Christoph
>
>
> > 2011/10/3 Christoph Noack <christoph@dogmatux.com>
> >
> > > Hi Tobias, all!
> > >
> > > Am Montag, den 03.10.2011, 21:00 +0200 schrieb Tobias Bernard:
> > > > So, Tobias (or anybody interested), could you start such a
> > > > > "Design/Collaboration" page?
> > >
> > > > yes, i could. great idea!
> > >
> > > Cool - thanks a lot!
> > >
> > > > but i'd probably need some help, because i don't have a lot of
> exprience
> > > > with mediawiki (i tried to create a new page, but couldn't find the
> > > option
> > > > to do it). so if someone creates a page i'd write the text ;)
> > >
> > > Done :-) Here it is ...
> > > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Collaboration
> > >
> > > Creating a page in MediaWiki is a bit funny, yes. You need to browse to
> > > the inexistent page (e.g. by typing in a URL), then you get the option
> > > to "Create" it. But, you need to be logged in.
> > >
> > > Thanks again! I'm sure we can make it a helpful resource for new team
> > > members ... if others think stuff is missing (e.g. I always wanted to
> > > know ..., I know others always missed ...), then please jump in.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Christoph
> > >
> > > > tobias
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2011/9/29 Christoph Noack <christoph@dogmatux.com>
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Tobias, all!
> > > > >
> > > > > Am Mittwoch, den 28.09.2011, 21:51 +0200 schrieb Tobias Bernard:
> > > > > [...]
> > > > > > but as i already said and others too mentioned, it *is* a
> problem,
> > > when
> > > > > > design is done with proprietary software and no soures are
> available
> > > in a
> > > > > > standard format (in our case SVG).
> > > > > [...]
> > > > > > in any way, i highly recommend everyone to use free software
> from the
> > > > > very
> > > > > > beginning, so we don't have to deal with such problems in the
> future.
> > > > > I still totally agree ... and you've stated many reasons why the
> use of
> > > > > open file formats and free software is required to enable
> > > collaboration.
> > > > > So, I'd like to kindly ask you for a favor - could you please
> summarize
> > > > > these thoughts on a wiki page, so that other new community members
> get
> > > > > an idea how "we" usually work? That was something I had in mind
> since
> > > > > quite some time ... but never managed to start writing such a
> page. I
> > > > > promise that I'll add stuff later ;-)
> > > > >
> > > > > And, it would be greatly complement our already existing tools
> page:
> > > > > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/User_Experience/Tools
> > > > >
> > > > > So, Tobias (or anybody interested), could you start such a
> > > > > "Design/Collaboration" page?
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > Christoph
> > > > >
> > > > > > 2011/9/28 David Nelson <lists@traduction.biz>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi guys,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sorry, but I disagree with criticising Aleksandar like this.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 1) We need creative people doing work for our project. I don't
> > > really
> > > > > > > care what he uses, as long as the format of the source files is
> > > > > > > accessible. Sure, it would be great if he was using Gimp or
> > > Inkscape,
> > > > > > > but Photoshop can output files that can be read with those
> > > programs,
> > > > > > > and Gimp can read .psd.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2) We all have our favorite tools. I run Linux 24/7 on my
> system,
> > > but
> > > > > > > I always keep a copy of Photoshop 6/ImageReady installed using
> > > > > > > Wine/Crossover Office, simply because I know how to easily do
> > > things
> > > > > > > with them that *can* be done with Gimp but only in a more
> > > round-about
> > > > > > > manner. Plus, there are things that Gimp and Photoshop each do
> > > > > > > slightly better or worse than the other.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So I think Aleksandar should be left to use what tools he
> wants.
> > > You
> > > > > > > do know that Photoshop is a *very* commonly-used tool among
> graphic
> > > > > > > artists, right?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So can we stop the flaming in this thread about tools?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Tobias,Vitorio, when I the same real productive output for the
> > > > > > > LibreOffice project from you guys as Aleksandar has
> contributed,
> > > then
> > > > > > > you can start bitching. Until then, please let the guy work in
> > > peace.
> > > > > > > Thanks. ;-)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
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