Re: [libreoffice-design] Idea: command launcher for LibreOffice

I discovered this few times ago. I don't know if it's easily possible to
implement this type of feature to be "cross-system", I'm not a dev. But I
must agree, this is very interesting.

Kévin

2011/10/29 Oren Barnea <oren.barnea@gmail.com>

> I didn't know about this feature of OS X. Turns out it's been around since
> 2006!
> Here's a short video demonstrating it:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WScF1OAL094
>
> The notes under the video say that "It works in all programs, even
> Photoshop". Does it work in LibreOffice under OS X? :)
>
> Thanks for this Kévin, very interesting.
>
> On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 11:51, Kévin PEIGNOT <peignot.kevin@kpeignot.fr
> > wrote:
>
> > Hy every one !
> >
> > What you are speaking here make me think about MAC osx help system. You
> > type
> > what you want to do and it open the good menu for you. I do not have a
> MAC
> > myself so I can't make capture but I'm sure there are a lot easily
> findable
> > on YouTube or other. It's a great way to help AND learn AND save time I
> > think. Maybe we could think about a similar system ?
> >
> > Kévin
> >
> > ---
> > Sent from gmail for Android
> > Le 25 oct. 2011 23:00, "Christoph Noack" <christoph@dogmatux.com> a
> écrit
> > :
> >
> > > Hi Oren, all!
> > >
> > > Dear designers, I had to moderate Oren's mail and already included a
> > > quick reply with a proposal from some time ago (see below, please).
> > >
> > > Am Dienstag, den 25.10.2011, 22:29 +0200 schrieb Oren Barnea:
> > > > On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 22:09, Christoph Noack
> > > > <christoph@dogmatux.com> wrote:
> > > >         [...]
> > > >
> > > >         Concerning your idea ... yes, we had some similar proposals
> > > >         some years
> > > >         ago, but we didn't get that far to consider it / implement
> it.
> > > >         If you
> > > >         like, please have a look at:
> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Proposal_by_Andreas_Schuderer#Keyboard_Command_Invocation
> > > > [...]
> > > > Thank you for the link to the proposal from a few years ago. It's
> very
> > > > well written and quite convincing IMHO... Do you happen to remember
> > > > why it didn't even get considered? I read somewhere that after the
> > > > split from OO.o, the development of LibreOffice became quicker and
> > > > more flexible - do you think there's a chance that the idea that got
> > > > rejected back then might be getting a warmer welcome now?
> > >
> > > It didn't get considered, since we brainstormed about new ways to
> access
> > > functionality ... first, we needed improved menus (the command
> > > invocation was something optional), then it was prototyped, then it
> > > became clear that before any changes OOo needed to be cleaned up first,
> > > then we got the first results in Impress, and then ... well the story
> of
> > > LibO :-)
> > >
> > > Surely, the LibreOffice development became quicker and more flexible
> ...
> > > because many developers are free to decide on their tasks and time.
> This
> > > means we need to find someone who likes this idea. One, who may start
> > > doing a simple proof-of-concept via an extensions (or something like
> > > that). In this case, it needs asking them ... any developer around who
> > > might know whom to ping?
> > >
> > > Some years ago, I also thought a bit about such an issue ... for
> example
> > > something like an "Awesome Bar" (see Firefox) for OOo/LibO.
> > >      * Enter a word ... it's a term in the document as well? Then show
> > >        the function to search / jump to that word.
> > >      * Enter a number ... it's a heading? Then resolve it to a
> > >        cross-reference.
> > >      * Enter a function ... maybe the user needs help as well. Offer to
> > >        go to the help topic.
> > >      * ...
> > >
> > > You'll get the point ;-) But first, let's have some room for the others
> > > as well ...
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Christoph
> > >
> > > Am Dienstag, den 25.10.2011, 10:11 +0200 schrieb Oren Barnea:
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > Here's an idea aimed at helping with the long-standing problem of the
> > > huge
> > > > number of commands, options and menu items in office suites, and
> their
> > > low
> > > > discoverability. It's more of an adaptation of existing ideas,
> > actually.
> > > > Desktop application launchers (Gnome-Do, Katapult, Synapse and their
> > > likes)
> > > > have been around for years and IMHO are a very convenient way of
> > > executing
> > > > applications, launching files and so on. Recently they have gone more
> > > > mainstream, as Windows 7, Gnome Shell and Unity all have similar
> > > > functionality built into their interfaces. I think an office suite
> > could
> > > > benefit from having a similar interface as a way to improve the
> > > efficiency
> > > > of work and the discoverability of the commands and options available
> > to
> > > the
> > > > user, since the traditional menu structure and the newer Ribbon style
> > are
> > > > both lacking in this.
> > > >
> > > > As a first step to implement this idea, I think it might be possible
> to
> > > > create an index of the texts in the localization files of
> LibreOffice,
> > > which
> > > > include all the commands, options and word in dialog boxes that a
> user
> > > might
> > > > want to execute. Once the index exists, a plug-in can be written to
> > > launch a
> > > > search box that lets the user type what they want to do, search the
> > index
> > > > for the typed text, show the user a list of items that fit that text
> > and
> > > > execute the selected item.
> > > >
> > > > I don't know how difficult or easy it would be to do this. Maybe the
> > > > suggested way of implementing this idea is not even possible (I'm
> > > actually
> > > > not sure there is a way to map the indexed words to the actual
> > commands,
> > > and
> > > > if there isn't one, what would it take to create it.)
> > > >
> > > > I have to say that I'm not a software developer and I know almost
> > nothing
> > > > about the structure of LibreOffice. Everything I wrote about the
> > > > implementation of this idea might be totally wrong. I know that some
> of
> > > the
> > > > things I talk about don't even belong to this specific mailing list,
> > but
> > > I
> > > > think this is the right place to suggest this idea.
> > > >
> > > > I would be very happy to hear your opinions about this idea and if
> it's
> > > > worth pursuing.
> > > >
> > > > All the best,
> > > > Oren
> > >
> > >
> > >
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