Re: [libreoffice-design] Discussion about Extensions-Site-Layout

Hi Christoph, *,

Am Montag, 24. Oktober 2011, 21:23:54 schrieb Christoph Noack:
(...)
> Am Sonntag, den 23.10.2011, 17:16 +0200 schrieb Andreas Mantke:
> > Hi Christoph, *,
> >
> > Am Sonntag, 23. Oktober 2011, 15:58:07 schrieb Christoph Noack:
> > > Am Sonntag, den 23.10.2011, 13:31 +1100 schrieb Nik:
> [...]
>
> > but that is not a discussion task only for designer. I created the
> > Donation-Portlet because there was a discussion and request on other
> > lists (If I remember correctly the website list).
> > Thus the discussion had to take place on the Website- or the
> > Foundation-Discuss-List, because otherwise we'll discuss this topic
> > again and again on different lists.
>
> Absolutely! Discussions will take place ... and this was the reason for
> me to start the "what is important for users and us"-list. I think that
> hasn't been clear from my side (sorry). Once we defined the "user tasks"
> with the highest priority (or things we really need to avoid, like e.g.
> advertising), it will be much easier to decide.

but that is not a design-only-thing. It should in my opinion be discussed on the 
lists, I suggest above.
I created the donation portlet, because there was a strong request for it. If we 
would go in another direction or will change the focus, it should discussed on the 
international discuss list or the website list. And it is no fun for a developer, if 
he had to do everything again and again (You know groundhog day ;-)

> > > So, refining the tasks list ... open for discussion, of course.
> > >
> > > Interest of the people approaching the page:
> > >      1. Getting extensions / templates ... so users should get an
> > >      
> > >         initial idea (so showing e.g. the most recent or best rated
> > >         items -> from here, people should be able to get further
> > >         collections)
> > >      
> > >      2. Getting help how to install Extensions (currently it is still
> > >      
> > >         manual work, so we have to help here)
> >
> > Yes. But there is a link to a howto, that Gustavo and others wrote about
> > this topic, on every extension project page. I worked on the code of
> > Plone Software Center to make it posible that there is a hyperlink (and
> > not only a text-link) to the howto. If it helps, I can put the link also
> > on the homepage.
>
> Okay, thanks. But, I propose to wait a bit longer until we have the full
> list (I assume that people who never used a wiki will be confused when
> forwarded to another page that looks different).

But the howto is on our main LibreOffice webpage. Currently it could not be stored in 
binary file format on the extensions-site, because there is an issue with the 
blobstorrage (where all binary files go) (only for files from the website outside the 
Plone Software Center). 

> > >      3. Making it possible to "forward" information / templates to
> > >      other
> > >      
> > >         people (use case: advanced user "helps" less experienced person
> > >         to find what he might need)
> >
> > Do you think about sending mails with links to other people?
>
> May be one solution, yes. But do the other think that this might be
> helpful / desired for such a page?

If you have a description and maybe a mockup, you can post it to the wikipage (see 
below).

> > >      4. Upload their own content (this needs refinement as well ...)
> >
> > I need your proposals. Then I could look into the code of Plone Software
> > Center (PSC) and Plone, what could be done / changed.
>
> Yep.
>
> By the way, is there any page that covers the Extension/Template-Center
> development (something like our Whiteboard pages)?

Yes, started longer time ago:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/index.php?title=Exitensions-website

Regards,
Andreas
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