Re: [libreoffice-design] Icons

Hi Christopher!

Am Dienstag, den 12.07.2011, 10:43 -0400 schrieb Christopher Lee:
> I have to agree on the icons.  Even if they are functional, they sure aren't
> pretty (and this may be unrelated, but can we please 1) Get rid of that
> hideous gray/black gradient on the down arrow at the end of toolbars-- it
> looks really bad and breaks up the GUI

Seems that other guys think similarly - kudos to Kendy :-)

http://artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~kendy/blog/archives/monthly/2011-06.html#2011-06-14T10_29_17.htm

By the way (serious question) is anybody (but e.g. Bernhard) following
the developer list and the planet?

> , and 2) allow toolbar behavior, like
> the showing of the "Full screen" toolbar, to be customized?).  Faenza is a
> good looking theme, and while it may not be to everyone's taste, at least we
> can try this one out first.
>
> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/07/faenza-icons-for-libreoffice-toolbar.html

Mmh, at least for me it is already difficult to distinguish most of the
icons visible per default - the design is kind of abstract and removing
(most of) the color among (in the source files) shape reduces
distinctiveness.

Besides that, there is a need for several hundred icons that need to be
created to get a reasonable coverage for the interface. Unfortunately,
this is the main issue to add an other icon set. "Unfortunately",
LibreOffice has an incredible feature set - and a need to (more or less)
fit to the different platforms.

Cheers,
Christoph

> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 8:09 AM, Sean White <runicpaladin@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Going back to the discussion about icons, could we possibly change the
> > default theme to Faenza or some other theme because when I show LibreOffice
> > (and OpenOffice before it) to people the two main negative reactions are:
> >
> > 1) The Interface is ugly and old
> >
> > 2) The icons are ugly
> >
> > Now number one has been discussed almost to death on this mailing list but
> > number 2 also needs to be addressed.  Tango is a quite ugly icon pack that
> > looks bad on anything apart from certain linux themes.  If the interface
> > makes people reminisce about the late 90's and early 2000's, the icon pack
> > makes them believe that the software is actually that old.  Faenza, on the
> > other hand, has a much more modern icon pack that, when coupled with a
> > better interface, could give more credibility to the modernness of
> > LibreOffice
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Andrew Pullins <android2772@gmail.com
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > well that sucks, why are they going to keep it? are they going to keep it
> > > open source? if so why did the fork take place. if not and they are going
> > > to
> > > make it proprietary software why keep the name which make no since now.
> > >
> > > Though I can, know how, and have the tools to do so I really do not make
> > > Icons.  I would love to help with this posses but I have never done so...
> > I
> > > could how ever make mock icons that some one could turn into a better
> > icon.
> > >  maybe for a tool that does not have an icon or something.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 6:30 PM, Bernhard Dippold <
> > > bernhard@familie-dippold.at> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Andrew, all
> > > >
> > > > Andrew Pullins schrieb:
> > > >
> > > >  I am new to Open Source and did not find them right away on in the
> > > files.
> > > > > so
> > > > > I figured that they mite be on the Libre design wiki or some thing.  I
> > > > > found
> > > > > them shortly after looking on the wiki and posting this email.
> > > >
> > > > Great!
> > > >
> > > > If you have interest in improving our wiki in order to help other
> > > newcomers
> > > > to find their way more easily, please raise your hand (and anybody
> > > > interested in this task, too). Our wiki can look much better than
> > > nowadays,
> > > > but we haven't the time to add more helpful information and to improve
> > > the
> > > > existing pages.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >   So the last
> > > > > I heard was that Oracle was going to donate the name Open Office back
> > to
> > > > > the community.  Is there any news to update on this, and if they do is
> > > > > there preparation to change Libre back to Open.
> > > >
> > > > Unfortunately your information is wrong:
> > > >
> > > > Oracle donated the OpenOffice.org code to Apache but kept the
> > > intellectual
> > > > property as well as the trademark as far as I know.
> > > >
> > > > While our community here has been interested in getting back the name
> > we
> > > > established over ten years as quite a strong brand, Oracle decided to
> > > create
> > > > a new community at Apache.
> > > >
> > > > If we had got back the OpenOffice.org brand, we would have had to
> > decide,
> > > > if we should go back to the OOo brand, maintain both brand names by
> > > > combining them like "LibreOffice evolved from OpenOffice" or keep the
> > > > LibreOffice brand as we do now.
> > > >
> > > > Because the brand has not been handed over to TDF, all these thoughts
> > are
> > > > in vain...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  I don't know what I will do
> > > > > with the icons but I think that they need some revamping.  not sure if
> > > > > there
> > > > > is a wiki devoted to that or not.  the hard thing to do is get them
> > all
> > > to
> > > > > be the same style.  thanks for the help though.
> > > >
> > > > I don't think that we already have a wiki page showing all the menu
> > icons
> > > > in all their different styles.
> > > >
> > > > It might be quite valuable to have an oversight.
> > > >
> > > > Starting such a task might be quite a pain, so you should consider to
> > > start
> > > > your work on a subpage of your wiki userpage like I did with mine:
> > > > http://wiki.**documentfoundation.org/User:**Bedipp/Drafts<
> > > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Bedipp/Drafts>
> > > > Best regards
> > > >
> > > > Bernhard
> > > >
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