Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [VI] Consistent theme for screenshots

Hi Jean, Bernhard, *all, 

On Wed, 6 Jul 2011 06:49:04 +1000
Jean Weber <jeanweber@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 06:02, Bernhard Dippold
> <bernhard@familie-dippold.at> wrote:
> > Hi Jean, all,
> >
> > sorry, Sigrid, you seem right: There is no chance to get a common agreement
> > on how screenshots should look like in a reasonable time...

sorry, I would have preferred to be wrong in this case. 

> > Jean Weber schrieb:
> > > On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 13:50, Marc Paré<marc@marcpare.com>  wrote:
> > > >

[...]

> OK. I may have got mixed up about who said what. I now think we do not
> have any disagreement about that.

That's good to see. Thanks for clarifying Jean. 
 
> > > And while it may be desirable to have uniformity among
> > > the documentation screenshots, I don't think it's a big deal that they
> > > are not uniform. We can develop the uniformity as we update the docs
> > > for other reasons.
> >
> > So you want to tell people to create the first set of screenshots with
> > different themes and work on them in a second step again?
>
> I am talking about the screenshots that are already there. Replacing
> them will be a lot of work and not IMO a high priority. When they need
> to be replaced for other reasons, then the screenshots should be done
> in the recommended theme if possible.

I agree, that this is a reasonable approach. 
 
> > > That said, I completely agree that having guidelines for documentation
> > > screenshots is a good thing. Note: guidelines, not rules. Marketing is
> > > a different matter: much more important there.
> >
> > We never discussed rules - even the branding guidelines are no rules (but
> > they are highly recommended to use).
>
> I know. I just want to make sure everyone in this discussion understands that.

Just for your information: the DE documentation team has voted for the Clearlooks theme with green2 
as the colour to use. 
I'm not very happy with this choice, I would have preferred a "less noisy" colour with still a good 
contrast, but it was a majority voting for this. So, we're going to produce screenshots with this 
theme for our documentation - and if necessary, we will provide screenshots for the website too. 

> > Every contributor can include the screenshots (s)he wants in any specific
> > contribution. But if there is a help available to produce consistent
> > screenshots, I'd like to be led to this help when I start to create
> > screenshots.
>
> Agreed. I want this too.

Indeed, and the DE documentation team has this now. ;) 
 
> > If you and the rest of the documentation team are as opposed to a consistent
> > look-and-feel in the LibreOffice documentation as David Nelson, we don't
> > need to discuss this topic any more or vote on it at all.
>
> I'm not opposed. IMO it's a good and desirable goal. Just as long as
> everyone understands it's not a top priority, worth holding up
> production to achieve. From latest discussions I now think that it is
> clear that everyone understands that.
>
> > But if you think, a guideline ("we recommend ...") leading to similar
> > screenshots in our docs would be a good thing, please let's define the
> > theme, so it can be used on our wiki and we can end this discussion.

Guidelines are good and important. I hope we can agree on some guidelines within the whole project 
soon. 
 
> Yes, guidelines are good. I am all for guidelines. I have given my
> opinion on the desirable look of a theme for documentation, and I'll
> be away for 2.5 weeks so I won't be able to create any more noise on
> this subject. I hope it's decided by the time I get back. :-)

:) I'm sure we'll manage, Jean. 


Sigrid

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