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On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 06:02, Bernhard Dippold
<> wrote:
Hi Jean, all,

sorry, Sigrid, you seem right: There is no chance to get a common agreement
on how screenshots should look like in a reasonable time...

Jean Weber schrieb:

On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 13:50, Marc Paré<>  wrote:

Not sure if you read this but maybe you should take some time. Bernhard
summed up all of the reasons that were proposed on uniformization on this
discussion thread in a recent post. Just in case you missed it, you may
it here:
think he has put it all very eloquently and as plain as possible. I think
the reasons for writing up protocols are overwhelming.

I respectfully disagree with Bernhard that there needs to be the
uniformity between marketing screenshots and documentation

In my eyes it is no need, it just have some advantages.

But if consistency in general is understood as uniformity or uniformization
and standardization LibreOffice should avoid, I can't follow this approach.

I already stated that there might be reasons to have two different
specifications for documentation an marketing screenshots, if there would be
a need for two different themes.

OK. I may have got mixed up about who said what. I now think we do not
have any disagreement about that.

And while it may be desirable to have uniformity among
the documentation screenshots, I don't think it's a big deal that they
are not uniform. We can develop the uniformity as we update the docs
for other reasons.

So you want to tell people to create the first set of screenshots with
different themes and work on them in a second step again?

I am talking about the screenshots that are already there. Replacing
them will be a lot of work and not IMO a high priority. When they need
to be replaced for other reasons, then the screenshots should be done
in the recommended theme if possible.

That said, I completely agree that having guidelines for documentation
screenshots is a good thing. Note: guidelines, not rules. Marketing is
a different matter: much more important there.

We never discussed rules - even the branding guidelines are no rules (but
they are highly recommended to use).

I know. I just want to make sure everyone in this discussion understands that.

Every contributor can include the screenshots (s)he wants in any specific
contribution. But if there is a help available to produce consistent
screenshots, I'd like to be led to this help when I start to create

Agreed. I want this too.

If you and the rest of the documentation team are as opposed to a consistent
look-and-feel in the LibreOffice documentation as David Nelson, we don't
need to discuss this topic any more or vote on it at all.

I'm not opposed. IMO it's a good and desirable goal. Just as long as
everyone understands it's not a top priority, worth holding up
production to achieve. From latest discussions I now think that it is
clear that everyone understands that.

But if you think, a guideline ("we recommend ...") leading to similar
screenshots in our docs would be a good thing, please let's define the
theme, so it can be used on our wiki and we can end this discussion.

Yes, guidelines are good. I am all for guidelines. I have given my
opinion on the desirable look of a theme for documentation, and I'll
be away for 2.5 weeks so I won't be able to create any more noise on
this subject. I hope it's decided by the time I get back. :-)


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