Re: [libreoffice-design] [VI] Consistent theme for screenshots

Le 2011-06-28 04:31, David Nelson a écrit :
> Hi,
>
> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 9:20 AM, Christoph Noack<christoph@dogmatux.com>  wrote:
> > So, to me, the aim of consistent screenshots make totally sense - even or especially from a 
> > community POV.
> Well, in any case, as someone who is a constant presence in the LibO
> docs team, I'll certainly cooperate in promoting/coordinating uptake
> of the initiative if it takes off.
>
> But, like I already said, I'm wary of complexifying the process of
> getting involved in docs contribution, and I don't feel like seeing
> things get over-regulated in the docs team. A) Don't we get enough of
> that in daily life already? Contributing to an OS project is supposed
> to be fun, not an over-regulated part-time job with as many rules as
> your day job.

On the contrary, this effort is to give clarity to taking screenshots. 
It is not fun, when you find that there are no people joining in, for 
example, taking screenshots, because there is no protocol. When the 
directions are clear and organised, then people join. With lack of 
clarity, people may show their hands up for a project and then loose 
faith where there is no help or direction. After all, this is what our 
LibreOffice is based on, a clear set of directions on how to build great 
documents. The documentation team uses established "styles" for their 
documentation. Imagine, if there were no styles, where would the 
documentation effort be then?

> B) It is so easy to scare new contributors off. For some
> time now, practically every newcomer has faded after just a short time
> of getting involved. If there's too much outside interference from
> people who don't actually regularly take part in the English docs
> team's life, it might not actually help us build a stable docs team,

I think that by now everyone can see the pattern, it is the same as with 
the OOo. There have already been comments on the lists that the same 
pattern has re-established itself with a core group doing most of the 
documentation, just as with the OOo. If this is the case (and it is), 
then our methods need to change. By establishing clear protocols on 
taking screenshots should enable more people to jump in and help out, 
and, will also help veteran members speak with one voice with respect to 
screenshot quality for our great documentation.

I am not sure what you call outside interference. In any part of 
LibreOffice, there are many ways to contribute. Also, sometimes, a new 
fresh pair of eyes may help out. If you find that you are lacking in 
contributors and you are doing the same as before (OOo), then maybe, 
having a change in some aspects of the protocols (in this case, 
screenshots) may help.

> C) Personally, I just don't see any need for standardization and
> uniformization.

Bernhard has summed up all of the reasons that were proposed on 
uniformization on this discussion thread in a recent post. Just in case 
you missed it, you may find it here: 
http://www.mail-archive.com/design@global.libreoffice.org/msg02537.html  
I think he has put it all very eloquently and as plain as possible. I 
think the reasons for writing up protocols are overwhelming.

> However, if this thing gets off the ground and has broad support, I'll
> certainly cooperate as a good team player. I'll be monitoring the
> conversation.
>
> BTW, all this is just my 2 cents. Please don't shoot me down for
> voicing it. TIA.

Hey, no problem, we are all contributing on the conversation and 
eventually, something will come of it. Now is the time to offer opinions 
and contributions to the discussion. I have already put up my hand to 
help out with screenshots and I am sure we will be able to steer 
newcomers to the documentation team to the "screenshots protocols" page 
as a place where they can get their feet wet, while they ramp up to more 
contributions on the team.

Cheers

Marc


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