Re: Platform Independent vs. Platform Specific Behavior (was: Re: [libreoffice-design] Take inspiration from Lotus Symphony ?)

Christoph,

Yes that is exactly what I had been thinking!!  And sure, I'd be glad to
help however I can!

Yours Truly,
Scott R. Pledger


On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 15:24, Christoph Noack <christoph@dogmatux.com>wrote:

> Hi Scott!
>
> You asked a tough question ... something we struggled quite some time
> within OpenOffice.org. So the question is not _if_ we apply platform
> specific elements ... the question is rather what we can share accross
> all platforms, because there is no reference implementation.
>
> Some examples:
>      * Toolbar color-picker
>      * New "Slide layout" drop-downs
>      * Slide sorter in Impress
>      * Print dialog (on some platforms, there is no reference
>        implementation)
>
> To me, this should be something that should be agreed on ... with the
> development and marketing to define a "degree of freedom".
>
> It's already part of the WhatWeNeed list, I've mentioned earlier ...
> Collect, clarify and document fundamental questions [...]:
>        "Platform specific" (respect the platform interaction
>        guidelines ... e.g. like Mozilla Firefox) vs. "Platform
>        independence" (work the same way on any platform ... e.g. like
>        web sites)
>
> Is this what you had in mind? Would you be interested in driving this
> effort (the item "Clarify Marketing Questions")?
>
> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Kick-Off/WhatWeNeed#Knowledge_and_Requirements
>
> Am Mittwoch, den 27.04.2011, 10:49 -0600 schrieb Scott Pledger:
> > My only concern when asking this question is the implementation of any
> kind
> > of a graphical look and feel - layouts would be the same across
> platforms,
> > but should the look and feel (things such as the coloring/graphics of the
> > application) apply the user's system theme or whether the coloring and
> > graphical feel of LibreOffice should be the same across all platforms in
> > addition to the layout or if the layout should merely implement the
> user's
> > native look and allow the system to apply whatever its theme is.
>
> Just one addition - I usually refer to "look" as the visual style, and
> "feel" as the behavior which also includes the workflows of the
> software.
>
> > Yours Truly,
> > Scott R. Pledger
>
> By the way, although we don't get any statistical evidence for users, I
> really like these small surveys ... thanks!
>
> Cheers,
> Christoph
>
> > On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 06:53, Daniel Merker <daniel.merker@wayne.edu
> > wrote:
> >
> > > 2011/4/26 Scott Pledger <scottpledger2005@gmail.com>:
> > > > Purely out of curiosity, how many people here prefer that the user's
> > > > default environment theme (GTK, Qt, etc.) be applied to LibreOffice
> > > > versus how many would rather see LibreOffice get its own look
> > > > independent of the desktop environment?
> > >
> > > > From a Core UI stance, LibO should have a consistent look across all
> > > platforms; for example, where the toolbar is, what is under each menu,
> how
> > > use cases are performed. The outer shell should conform to the standard
> of
> > > the platform; for example, where the max/min/close buttons are, what
> order
> > > those buttons should appear. IMHO, when you try to please everyone with
> > > different versions, in this case based on platforms, of a UI, you tend
> to
> > > please no one....
>
>
>
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