Re: [libreoffice-design] Mouse click actions on Styles and Format window

Hi Octavio,

thanks for your mail ... it seems that my thoughts didn't make it into
the mail :-)

Am Mittwoch, den 27.04.2011, 10:02 -0700 schrieb Octavio Alvarez:
> Hi, Christoph, all. I agree with what you said, except the following, and  
> I want to point out some examples.

Please do ...

> On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 13:25:26 -0700, Christoph Noack  
> <christoph@dogmatux.com> wrote:
>
> > > 1. We could have just one more button in that window, called 'New
> > > Style'. It would have a small drop down, with just two options: 'New
> > > Style', and 'New Style Based on Selected', which would create,
> > > respectively, a completely new style or a new one based on the one which
> > > is highlighted.
> >
> > We already have a little drop-down that might help here ... but I don't
> > mind if we add a more self-descriptive button.
> >
> > Still the point is - why do people need to add more styles? I think the
> > number of styles is quite sufficient, but maybe the defaults are
> > unwanted ... don't know.
>
> When writing an interview script I create styles that are named after each  
> of the characters in it in different colors.
>
> When writing a play script I want to have styles named "location",  
> "time-of-day", "dialog", etc. with different alignments and indentations.
>
> When creating an personal calendar I use styles named "personal",  
> "meeting", "high priority", "work", "done", with different colors, font  
> weight, or even bullets (e. g., using a check mark for "done").
>
> When writing an interview questionnaire I want styles like "question" and  
> "answer", where each are in a different color or font attributes and  
> "question" is set to have "Next Paragraph: answer".
>
> Those are all real examples I use or have used, except the second one.

Okay, I had two three things in mind that didn't make it into the mail:
      * We have lots of different styles built-in, but I doubt that each
        of the style has a sensible setting - so can we improve the
        styles we already have instead of (also) improving the way to
        add those.
      * We talk about adding / changing styles in a document - but why
        it is needed to built all these styles (each time a document
        gets created?). Do we miss good templates - definitively. Do we
        miss a good way to let people create their own templates easily
        - probably.
      * If people create styles, do they derive styles from other styles
        (and do they know what this means), or do they rather use
        "Standard" being the parent style?

So what I wanted to say is, that there might be ways to improve the
situation globally - instead of improving thing locally.

Mmh, maybe there is even a way to figure out the numbers of usage via
the OOo data collection ...

By the way, I'm one of those who work with MS Office 2007 at work - and
I haven't found a sane way yet (sane = feels like it has been designed
this way) to add a style.

Thus, finally, we may put our thoughts into a mockup and continue the
discussion ... due to some personal duties, I miss the time (which is
really sad, since this might help to continue ... but maybe Rafael can
jump in).

Cheers,
Christoph


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