Re: [libreoffice-design] MimeType icons: final run!

Very quickly: i'm personally for the Jaron Gear. I've done the detailing job
on it too, but the proposal here looks better actually. :D

~Paulo

2011/2/2 Christoph Noack <christoph@dogmatux.com>

> Hi Bernhard, hi Thorsten!
>
> I keep the full mail, since I'd like to forward it to Thorsten - who
> might not be aware of this mail.
>
> Am Mittwoch, den 02.02.2011, 21:27 +0100 schrieb Bernhard Dippold:
> > Hi Jaron, all,
> >
> > sorry that I can't work on the icons today, but I'm sick - the stomach
> > flu my children had during the last days caught myself.
>
> :-( Oh, please recover very soon ...
>
> > So I try to get at least the most important stuff done...
> >
> > Jaron Kuppers schrieb:
> > > Hi Bernhard,
> > >
> > > On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 7:56 PM, Bernhard Dippold<
> > > bernhard@familie-dippold.at>  wrote:
> > >
> > > > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Macro_icons.png
> > > >
> > > > Do you think they are okay in comparable in quality?
> > > I think the "Jaron gear" works better at the 16px but "Paulo's gear"
> looks
> > > better at the 128px size.
> >
> > I just copied the shadings Paulo used for his icons to the "Jaron gear"
> > - but as Paulo has limited Internet access he will probably not be able
> > to step in in time.
> > > > Which one should we propose to include in LibreOffice 3.3.1?
> > > >
> > > > As part of our collaborative work I'd like to include Jaron's.
> > > If you honestly think Paulo's gear is better don't include my change.
>  I
> > > would rather the better icon be shipped out.  My feelings won't be
> hurt. :-)
> > My personal impression is that your gear look more technical, it can't
> > be mistaken as star or flower.
> >
> > So as nobody else commented on them, I'd go with yours.
> >
> > I'm quite sure that these icons will be visible on the user's desktop
> > quite seldom - and from my personal experience (not UX based) these
> > people rather use smaller than larger document icons.
> > > I integrated Jaron's Macro icons and the lighter Impress template
> gradient
> > > > in this source file:
> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibreOffice_Initial_Icons-pre_final.svg
> > > > If we are okay with the icons in this file, they will be the ones to
> hand
> > > > over to Thorsten tomorrow.
> > > >
> > > > So please comment all: Critics, approval, what ever else:
> > > In general the icons look great!  My five dislikes are: (by the way it
> > > started at 2 and then I got really critical)
> > > 1) Calc 128px icon: The middle column at the top row is a little light.
> > > 2) Calc 128px icon: The lines on the bar graph next to the orange bar
> > > contrast too much
> > > 3) Draw 16px icon: I liked it better in a previous iteration where the
> > > triangle was the same equilateral triangle as in the other icons
> > > 4) Impress 128px icon: The shadow could be a little bit darker I
> think...
> > > (opacity changed to ~80)
> > > 5) HTML/Web 16px icon: If you take the 32px "World" and shrink it to
> the
> > > 16px world size and then change the "web" to 0.5 px width you get a
> nicer
> > > icon.*
> >
> > I can see all the points (perhaps except the last one - I'd like to have
> > it visualized), some of them apply to the 256px icons too: So yes, there
> > is room for improvement.
> >
> > I'd like to read Paulo's and Christoph's comments (and other's).
> >
> > But as time for improvements for the LibO 3.3.1 release seems to be
> > over, we'll have to work on them for the next release.
> >
> > As your proposals don't change the general look&feel, it will not lead
> > to user confusion when we change the icons slightly in the next releases.
> >
> > So I'd like to ask Thorsten to use this file to create the icons to be
> > included in LibreOffice 3.3.1:
> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/cgi_img_auth.php/d/d4/LibreOffice_Initial_Icons-pre_final.svg
> > I can't find the issue/bug where the first version of the icons has been
> > uploaded to bugs.freedesktop.org, so I can't attach the file there.
>
> But we do have the wiki page ;-)
>
> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/LibreOffice_Initial_Icons#Source_Code_Integration
>
> However, I've added the link to the most recent files to the issue
> tracker.
>
> > It's a great result for a really collaborative work - and we go on this
> > way with the new logo (I like Nik's proposal very much - will comment it
> > tomorrow) and other tasks !
>
> Thorsten, might that work? I didn't follow the discussion that closely
> concerning how to export / do the icons. Do you need some help, then
> please ask on the mailing list.
>
> Unfortunately, I'm unable to help today/tomorrow, since I'm also a bit
> busy as well :-\
>
> Cheers,
> Christoph
>
>
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