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Hi Bernhard, hi Thorsten!

I keep the full mail, since I'd like to forward it to Thorsten - who
might not be aware of this mail.

Am Mittwoch, den 02.02.2011, 21:27 +0100 schrieb Bernhard Dippold:
Hi Jaron, all,

sorry that I can't work on the icons today, but I'm sick - the stomach 
flu my children had during the last days caught myself.

:-( Oh, please recover very soon ...

So I try to get at least the most important stuff done...

Jaron Kuppers schrieb:
Hi Bernhard,

On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 7:56 PM, Bernhard Dippold<>  wrote:

Do you think they are okay in comparable in quality?

I think the "Jaron gear" works better at the 16px but "Paulo's gear" looks
better at the 128px size.

I just copied the shadings Paulo used for his icons to the "Jaron gear" 
- but as Paulo has limited Internet access he will probably not be able 
to step in in time.

Which one should we propose to include in LibreOffice 3.3.1?

As part of our collaborative work I'd like to include Jaron's.

If you honestly think Paulo's gear is better don't include my change.  I
would rather the better icon be shipped out.  My feelings won't be hurt. :-)

My personal impression is that your gear look more technical, it can't 
be mistaken as star or flower.

So as nobody else commented on them, I'd go with yours.

I'm quite sure that these icons will be visible on the user's desktop 
quite seldom - and from my personal experience (not UX based) these 
people rather use smaller than larger document icons.

I integrated Jaron's Macro icons and the lighter Impress template gradient
in this source file:

If we are okay with the icons in this file, they will be the ones to hand
over to Thorsten tomorrow.

So please comment all: Critics, approval, what ever else:

In general the icons look great!  My five dislikes are: (by the way it
started at 2 and then I got really critical)
1) Calc 128px icon: The middle column at the top row is a little light.
2) Calc 128px icon: The lines on the bar graph next to the orange bar
contrast too much
3) Draw 16px icon: I liked it better in a previous iteration where the
triangle was the same equilateral triangle as in the other icons
4) Impress 128px icon: The shadow could be a little bit darker I think...
(opacity changed to ~80)
5) HTML/Web 16px icon: If you take the 32px "World" and shrink it to the
16px world size and then change the "web" to 0.5 px width you get a nicer

I can see all the points (perhaps except the last one - I'd like to have 
it visualized), some of them apply to the 256px icons too: So yes, there 
is room for improvement.

I'd like to read Paulo's and Christoph's comments (and other's).

But as time for improvements for the LibO 3.3.1 release seems to be 
over, we'll have to work on them for the next release.

As your proposals don't change the general look&feel, it will not lead 
to user confusion when we change the icons slightly in the next releases.

So I'd like to ask Thorsten to use this file to create the icons to be 
included in LibreOffice 3.3.1: 

I can't find the issue/bug where the first version of the icons has been 
uploaded to, so I can't attach the file there.

But we do have the wiki page ;-)

However, I've added the link to the most recent files to the issue

It's a great result for a really collaborative work - and we go on this 
way with the new logo (I like Nik's proposal very much - will comment it 
tomorrow) and other tasks !

Thorsten, might that work? I didn't follow the discussion that closely
concerning how to export / do the icons. Do you need some help, then
please ask on the mailing list.

Unfortunately, I'm unable to help today/tomorrow, since I'm also a bit
busy as well :-\


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