RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: Funding Wishlist

Hi,
One area that I'd like addressed is Impress accessibility in Linux.  The authoring and presenting 
experience is far behind that which can be had using MS tools on Windows with a screen reader.  I 
am a professional trainer and use presentation software every day.  If my company were to move away 
from Microsoft and embrace either Libre or Open Office, it would be a disaster for me as I rely 
heavily on Powerpoint to do my job.  

I'd certainly like for all the accessibility stuff to be fixed in Windows but others have mentioned 
it so, I thought I'd bring up something far more close to home for me.  

Thanks.
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: Christophe Strobbe [mailto:strobbe@hdm-stuttgart.de] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 10:39 AM
To: marc@marcpare.com; LibO Mailing List Accessibility; Florian Effenberger
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: Funding Wishlist

Hi,


(I was away from this list for a while because I moved to a different employer and a different 
country earlier this year.)


Am Di, 20.11.2012, 16:48 schrieb Marc Paré:
> (...)
> To the accessibility team, if there was funding available for such a 
> thing, what would your items be and in order of preference. I know in 
> my local school boards Dragon Speaking is a requirement, that is, 
> unless there is an equivalent replacement.

That's an interesting question, since I prepared a presentation on LibreOffice accessibility for 
FOSDEM 2012 but I had to cancel it (force majeure, basically).

The issues can be divided into two categories:
1. The accessibility of LibreOffice itself. The most important blocker is the missing 
implementation of IAccessible2 (the Java Accessibility API is not sufficiently supported on 
Windows). There are also a few issues on Gnome. (My presentation for FOSDEM contained bug IDs etc.) 
2. Features that allow you to create accessible content - not only accessible ODF documents, but 
also formats that you can "save as" or export, e.g. HTML and PDF.  (Again, my presentation for 
FOSDEM contained bug IDs etc.)

I would say that the IAccessible2 issue is the biggest one. It's been a while since I was involved 
in discussions about this, but the LibreOffice developers were basically waiting for the 
IAccessible2 implementation in OpenOffice.org, which they would then borrow. (In order to avoid 
duplication of efforts.)

I'm sure other list members will chime in with comments.



> Another funding wishlist item could be that the TDF/LibreOffice help 
> fund an Accessibility conference where some of the leading members of 
> the accessibility team along with other interested partners could meet 
> to try to solve bottlenecks in development for LibreOffice.

Not sure if it necessary to fund a conference. Do you mean travel costs?
The LibreOffice conferences should be good opportunities, but my experience in Paris last year was 
that it is difficult to get developers to attend an accessibility presentation when there are 
technical tracks running in parallel.


> It is sometimes good to meet as a team with 3rd party software 
> providers to see what kind of progress or what type of cooperative 
> development could take place.

This reminds me of earlier work to enable OOo support in Dragon Naturally
Speaking:
<https://blogs.oracle.com/malte/entry/speech_recognition_for_openoffice_org>.
I don't know if this still works.


Best regards,

Christophe


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>
> Would there be any other items that you could think of to put on your 
> wishlist?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Marc
>
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