Re: Nvda list, was: Fw: RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] Latest Libo Won't Play Nice with my JRE

Hi :)
Thanks! :)  I added the link to the end of the wiki-page
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Accessibility
and the new section appeared in the T.o.C.!  I put a link to the java-bridge page in the intro.  
Feel free to edit of course.  

Finally added a section to the wiki's home-page
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Main_Page
You might want to edit that one but i thought it might be good to try to encourage people to try 
out the accessibility features even if they don't really need them for themselves yet.  More people 
using them might boost the amount of people working on the problems, maybe?

Regards from
Tom :)  


--- On Mon, 8/10/12, Kevin Cussick <the.big.white.shepherd@googlemail.com> wrote:

From: Kevin Cussick <the.big.white.shepherd@googlemail.com>
Subject: Re: Nvda list, was: Fw: RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] Latest Libo Won't Play Nice with 
my JRE
To: "Tom Davies" <tomdavies04@yahoo.co.uk>
Cc: accessibility@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Monday, 8 October, 2012, 12:25

Hello,

Here is the page where you can subscribe to a few e-mail lists for nvda 
including support hope this is what your looking for. 
http://www.nvda-project.org/wiki/Support

On 08/10/2012 11:44, Tom Davies wrote:
> Hi :)
> How do you join the Nvda list?  Where is it?
>
> Would it be a good idea to create a wiki-page to introduce people to accessibility issue related 
> to LO (and perhaps wider?).  The documentation mailing list has a ton of wiki-pages about all 
> sorts of things to help them keep track of different things and to help people join in with what 
> they are doing.  The java-bridge page seems reasonably popular already even though it's not 
> widely known about.  Would it be useful to have an accessibility wiki-page that links to various 
> external in internal sources?
>
> I could set-up a page if that would help but you guys & ladies might have to add useful content.  
> Pretty much anything you have found useful might be useful to other people however trivial or 
> obvious it might have seemed to you.  Also i don't quite understand how to get a 
> table-of-contents onto wiki-pages here.  Perhaps this address would be good?
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Accessibility
>
> Ooops, lol!  The page already exists but it seems you have a lot to add including the link to the 
> java-bridge page and it might be good to add a link to that page from somewhere sensible on the 
> main home-page
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Main_Page
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
> --- On Mon, 8/10/12, V Stuart Foote <VStuart.Foote@utsa.edu> wrote:
>
> From: V Stuart Foote <VStuart.Foote@utsa.edu>
> Subject: RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] Latest Libo Won't Play Nice with my JRE
> To: "Kevin Cussick" <the.big.white.shepherd@googlemail.com>, accessibility@global.libreoffice.org
> Date: Monday, 8 October, 2012, 2:05
>
> Kevin,
>
> Golly. I hate to keep harping on this.  And I know it must seem like we are asking you to jump 
> through hoops.
>
> But as Tom notes the effort is to clear it everything off and start clean from a known state. In 
> your latest attempt you've ended up non-functional.
>
> To have a correct outcome, the install order IS important. LibreOffice gets install LAST.
>
> Remove in this order:
>
>     1.   LibreOffice
>      2.  NVDA
>      3.  Java Access Bridge
>      4.  Java Runtime Environment
>
> Install in this order
>
>       1. Java Runtime Environment
>       2. Java Access Bridge
>       3. NVDA
>       4. LibreOffice
>
> But note this:  with JRE 1.7u7, the Java Access Bridge v2.0.3 is installed automatically and just 
> needs to be enabled with a "jabswitch.exe /enable" command.   Only for JRE 1.6 do you still need 
> to use the JWin utility to install and configure Java Access Bridge v2.0.2.
>
> In other words you should no longer use the JWin program with JRE 1.7 greater than update 6. 
> Rather, simply enable the built in Java Access Bridge and then install NVDA and finally 
> LibreOffice.
>
> Also, during LibreOffice 3.6 installation, on the last page of Installation Wizard configuration 
> "Ready to Install the Program" there will be two check boxes 1) "Create a start link on desktop", 
> and 2) "Support assistive technology tools"  Check that box and then select the Install button.
>
> The assistive technology checkbox is off by default--and must be checked to enable assistive 
> technology in LibreOffice without navigating the Tools -> Options -> Accessibility and Tools -> 
> Options Java menus.
>
> Without the Accessibility "Support assistive technology tools" checked, NVDA will read the 
> outside frame elements of LibreOffice-but will not be able to read or navigate text within the 
> components.
>
> Stuart
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Kevin Cussick [mailto:the.big.white.shepherd@googlemail.com]
> Sent: Sun 10/7/2012 5:47 PM
> To: Tom Davies
> Cc: V Stuart Foote; Kevin Cussick; accessibility@global.libreoffice.org
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Latest Libo Won't Play Nice with my JRE
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
> OK I uninstalled Lo, uninstalled the java7 TM update I think it was
> installed nvda I can't see anything that relates to access bridge,
> because the java7 just downloads it with window's anyway. rebooted the
> PC installed lo, installed the downloaded java.exe 32 bit it is version
> 7,rebooted the PC but before doing so checked that the java switch was
> checked it was, then reinstalled Nvda I used the portable version of
> nvda this dose not use anything that Java would be needing anyway. It's
> getting late so struggling to keep focused, anyway the result is that I
> did not get lo working oh nearly forgot after rebooting but before
> installing nvda again I downloaded the jwin program ran it and ran the
> have ferret.exe file as well, but as said nothing what now? thanks in
> advance but I am about to give up If I hear that anyone else has this
> latest stable version running with java7 and the access bridge then I am
> happy to take instruction on how to fix it, but if not I think I have
> reached the end of the road.
>
> I have a feeling it is a problem with lo and u as well as has been said
> on the Nvda list. but I hope to be proved wrong thanks for all your help
> all who have tried to help.

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