Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Latest Libo Won't Play Nice with my JRE

Hi :)
I try to pop in to a few local ones from time-to-time just to listen in on how sensbile and 
accurate their banter is.  Sometimes ask a few questions just to hear their responses.  In my town 
we are lucky to have a few that are a hilarious joke and another couple that are really quite 
knowledgeable.  
Regards from
Tom :)  


--- On Mon, 8/10/12, Kevin Cussick <the.big.white.shepherd@googlemail.com> wrote:

From: Kevin Cussick <the.big.white.shepherd@googlemail.com>
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Latest Libo Won't Play Nice with my JRE
To: "Tom Davies" <tomdavies04@yahoo.co.uk>
Cc: "V Stuart Foote" <VStuart.Foote@utsa.edu>, "Kevin Cussick" 
<the.big.white.shepherd@googlemail.com>, accessibility@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Monday, 8 October, 2012, 12:29

Na mate thanks I will do it my self, the problems I have had in the 
early days with computer shops that know nothing about accessibility is 
not going to get me running to them any time soon thanks anyway.

On 08/10/2012 12:23, Tom Davies wrote:
> Hi :)
> Is it possible to get someone local to help you with this?  Can you
> uninstall again but make sure it's in the right order and then reinstall
> in the right order?
>
> I take it that it's going to make the machine unusable for you for a
> while after certain things are uninstalled so it would be great to get
> someone else to do that part.  Given that you have reached this list you
> are probably more of a techie than most people you know but maybe
> someone you know can follow instructions well?  Maybe a local computer
> shop or someone advertising doing home-repairs?
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
> --- On *Mon, 8/10/12, Kevin Cussick
> /<the.big.white.shepherd@googlemail.com>/* wrote:
>
>
>      From: Kevin Cussick <the.big.white.shepherd@googlemail.com>
>      Subject: Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Latest Libo Won't Play Nice
>      with my JRE
>      To: "V Stuart Foote" <VStuart.Foote@utsa.edu>
>      Cc: "Kevin Cussick" <the.big.white.shepherd@googlemail.com>,
>      accessibility@global.libreoffice.org
>      Date: Monday, 8 October, 2012, 11:54
>
>      Hello,
>
>      Thanks for your very informative post.
>
>      I have done everything correctly but maybe the way I uninstalled and
>      reinstalled is wrong. in your last post it did say to download the
>      J-win installer now your saying not to do it?
>
>      Oh dear this is getting mad, anyway I will put your mail into a text
>      file and thank you once again for both your help and your patients.
>      I don't really hold out much hope but I will giver it 1 last try. I
>      will ask over on the nvda dev list if I should run the portable nvda
>      I don't really see this doing any harm but will ask anyway. I did
>      switch the check box on for accessibility in lo.
>
>      On 08/10/2012 02:05, V Stuart Foote wrote:
>       > Kevin,
>       > Golly. I hate to keep harping on this.  And I know it must seem
>      like we
>       > are asking you to jump through hoops.
>       > But as Tom notes the effort is to clear it everything off and start
>       > clean from a known state. In your latest attempt you've ended up
>       > non-functional.
>       > To have a correct outcome, the install order IS important.
>      LibreOffice
>       > gets install LAST.
>       > Remove in this order:
>       >    1.   LibreOffice
>       >     2.  NVDA
>       >     3.  Java Access Bridge
>       >     4.  Java Runtime Environment
>       > Install in this order
>       >      1. Java Runtime Environment
>       >      2. Java Access Bridge
>       >      3. NVDA
>       >   4. LibreOffice
>       > But note this:  with JRE 1.7u7, the Java Access Bridge v2.0.3 is
>       > installed automatically and just needs to be enabled with a
>       > "jabswitch.exe /enable" command. Only for JRE 1.6 do you still
>      need to
>       > use the JWin utility to install and configure Java Access Bridge
>      v2.0.2.
>       > In other words you should no longer use the JWin program with JRE
>       > 1.7 greater than update 6. Rather, simply enable the built in Java
>       > Access Bridge and then install NVDA and finally LibreOffice.
>       > Also, during LibreOffice 3.6 installation, on the last page of
>       > Installation Wizard configuration "Ready to Install the Program"
>      there
>       > will be two check boxes 1) "Create a start link on desktop", and
>       > 2) "Support assistive technology tools"  Check that box and then
>      select
>       > the Install button.
>       > The assistive technology checkbox is off by default--and must be
>      checked
>       > to enable assistive technology in LibreOffice without navigating the
>       > Tools -> Options -> Accessibility and Tools -> Options Java menus.
>       > Without the Accessibility "Support assistive technology tools"
>      checked,
>       > NVDA will read the outside frame elements of LibreOffice-but will
>      not be
>       > able to read or navigate text within the components.
>       > Stuart
>       > //
>       >
>      ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>       > *From:* Kevin Cussick
>      [mailto:the.big.white.shepherd@googlemail.com
>      </mc/compose?to=the.big.white.shepherd@googlemail.com>]
>       > *Sent:* Sun 10/7/2012 5:47 PM
>       > *To:* Tom Davies
>       > *Cc:* V Stuart Foote; Kevin Cussick;
>      accessibility@global.libreoffice.org
>      </mc/compose?to=accessibility@global.libreoffice.org>
>       > *Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Latest Libo Won't Play
>      Nice
>       > with my JRE
>       >
>       > Hello,
>       >
>       > OK I uninstalled Lo, uninstalled the java7 TM update I think it was
>       > installed nvda I can't see anything that relates to access bridge,
>       > because the java7 just downloads it with window's anyway.
>      rebooted the
>       > PC installed lo, installed the downloaded java.exe 32 bit it is
>      version
>       > 7,rebooted the PC but before doing so checked that the java
>      switch was
>       > checked it was, then reinstalled Nvda I used the portable version of
>       > nvda this dose not use anything that Java would be needing
>      anyway. It's
>       > getting late so struggling to keep focused, anyway the result is
>      that I
>       > did not get lo working oh nearly forgot after rebooting but before
>       > installing nvda again I downloaded the jwin program ran it and
>      ran the
>       > have ferret.exe file as well, but as said nothing what now? thanks in
>       > advance but I am about to give up If I hear that anyone else has this
>       > latest stable version running with java7 and the access bridge
>      then I am
>       > happy to take instruction on how to fix it, but if not I think I have
>       > reached the end of the road.
>       >
>       > I have a feeling it is a problem with lo and u as well as has
>      been said
>       > on the Nvda list. but I hope to be proved wrong thanks for all
>      your help
>       > all who have tried to help.
>       >
>
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