Nvda list, was: Fw: RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] Latest Libo Won't Play Nice with my JRE

Hi :)  
How do you join the Nvda list?  Where is it?  

Would it be a good idea to create a wiki-page to introduce people to accessibility issue related to 
LO (and perhaps wider?).  The documentation mailing list has a ton of wiki-pages about all sorts of 
things to help them keep track of different things and to help people join in with what they are 
doing.  The java-bridge page seems reasonably popular already even though it's not widely known 
about.  Would it be useful to have an accessibility wiki-page that links to various external in 
internal sources?  

I could set-up a page if that would help but you guys & ladies might have to add useful content.  
Pretty much anything you have found useful might be useful to other people however trivial or 
obvious it might have seemed to you.  Also i don't quite understand how to get a table-of-contents 
onto wiki-pages here.  Perhaps this address would be good?
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Accessibility

Ooops, lol!  The page already exists but it seems you have a lot to add including the link to the 
java-bridge page and it might be good to add a link to that page from somewhere sensible on the 
main home-page
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Main_Page
Regards from
Tom :)  


--- On Mon, 8/10/12, V Stuart Foote <VStuart.Foote@utsa.edu> wrote:

From: V Stuart Foote <VStuart.Foote@utsa.edu>
Subject: RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] Latest Libo Won't Play Nice with my JRE
To: "Kevin Cussick" <the.big.white.shepherd@googlemail.com>, accessibility@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Monday, 8 October, 2012, 2:05

Kevin,
 
Golly. I hate to keep harping on this.  And I know it must seem like we are asking you to jump 
through hoops.
 
But as Tom notes the effort is to clear it everything off and start clean from a known state. In 
your latest attempt you've ended up non-functional.
 
To have a correct outcome, the install order IS important. LibreOffice gets install LAST.
 
Remove in this order:  
 
  1.   LibreOffice 
   2.  NVDA 
   3.  Java Access Bridge 
   4.  Java Runtime Environment
 
Install in this order
 
    1. Java Runtime Environment
    2. Java Access Bridge
    3. NVDA
    4. LibreOffice
 
But note this:  with JRE 1.7u7, the Java Access Bridge v2.0.3 is installed automatically and just 
needs to be enabled with a "jabswitch.exe /enable" command.   Only for JRE 1.6 do you still need to 
use the JWin utility to install and configure Java Access Bridge v2.0.2.  
 
In other words you should no longer use the JWin program with JRE 1.7 greater than update 6. 
Rather, simply enable the built in Java Access Bridge and then install NVDA and finally LibreOffice.
 
Also, during LibreOffice 3.6 installation, on the last page of Installation Wizard configuration 
"Ready to Install the Program" there will be two check boxes 1) "Create a start link on desktop", 
and 2) "Support assistive technology tools"  Check that box and then select the Install button.
 
The assistive technology checkbox is off by default--and must be checked to enable assistive 
technology in LibreOffice without navigating the Tools -> Options -> Accessibility and Tools -> 
Options Java menus.  
 
Without the Accessibility "Support assistive technology tools" checked, NVDA will read the outside 
frame elements of LibreOffice-but will not be able to read or navigate text within the components.
 
Stuart


________________________________

From: Kevin Cussick [mailto:the.big.white.shepherd@googlemail.com]
Sent: Sun 10/7/2012 5:47 PM
To: Tom Davies
Cc: V Stuart Foote; Kevin Cussick; accessibility@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Latest Libo Won't Play Nice with my JRE



Hello,

OK I uninstalled Lo, uninstalled the java7 TM update I think it was
installed nvda I can't see anything that relates to access bridge,
because the java7 just downloads it with window's anyway. rebooted the
PC installed lo, installed the downloaded java.exe 32 bit it is version
7,rebooted the PC but before doing so checked that the java switch was
checked it was, then reinstalled Nvda I used the portable version of
nvda this dose not use anything that Java would be needing anyway. It's
getting late so struggling to keep focused, anyway the result is that I
did not get lo working oh nearly forgot after rebooting but before
installing nvda again I downloaded the jwin program ran it and ran the
have ferret.exe file as well, but as said nothing what now? thanks in
advance but I am about to give up If I hear that anyone else has this
latest stable version running with java7 and the access bridge then I am
happy to take instruction on how to fix it, but if not I think I have
reached the end of the road.

I have a feeling it is a problem with lo and u as well as has been said
on the Nvda list. but I hope to be proved wrong thanks for all your help
all who have tried to help.




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