I wonder what it would be like if TDF/LO was given CD/DVD reproduction
equipment - professional system that copies and prints labels of a
master file set. There range around $1400 - $2500 USD for 50 to 100 DVD
versions.
That would be a great way to get professional copies of the various DVDs
[LO project DVDs] out to the public at the regional events. The cost
should be less than going to a DVD burn/print service or a
print-on-demand service like Lulu.com.
For anyone who wants to "sell by donation" a LO based DVD, the first
thing is the out of pocket costs. If you do not use a print-on-demand
service - which is more cost tot the users and less donation potential
to TDF - the "seller" will need to make up a batch of DVDs themselves.
They either have a DVD printer to print the DVD media labels [some older
HP inkjets and some Epson Artisan inkjet do this], or they need to get
some service to make up the DVDs for them.
Either way, these people have a potentially large out of pocket expense.
For me, I handout my DVD with the labels printed on the media. I do not
make more than 5 or 10 at a time, since I do not want any older version
left over when the next version of the DVD is ready. It does not take
much time to burn a DVD and print its label on the media. IT does not
take much time to print off a "thin movie DVD case" label and an insert
document on how to use the media. For friends and family, I rarely give
them anything but a hand labeled DVD in a jewel case. I may give them
the the full "professional" handout, including a brochure, but after
than they get the "cheap" disc. They do not need something that looks
professional like the businesses, agencies, and government office
workers get from me.
I see that 3.5.6 comes out in August and 3.5.7 comes out in October.
So, I will be giving out a few DVDs of the 3.5.5 installs till 3.5.6 is
out, and more 3.5.6 than I did with 3.5.5 before 3.5.7 comes out. I
may not give out any 3.6 line till December or January.
Soon the 3.5.5 NA-DVD, named something like -
LO-3.5.5-1_English-NA-DVD_all-platforms_multi-lang_plus-extras.iso
- will be on the CD/DVD download page along with the German 3.5.5
CD/DVD[s]. The NA-DVD contains 6 non-English language and help packs,
along with en_US and en_GB language and help packs. The DVD is a
browser based media with its pages in English. All supported platforms
installs for LO are included, including the portable versions. Then
almost half of the DVD is given over to the extras that are not part of
the LO package installs.
It is nice to have the ability to download an ISO file for the CD/DVDs
on the download servers. My service will not allow me to have any file
larger than about 200 MB in their servers, but I have the entire DVD
online for browsing and testing since no "one" file is over the size
limit. So if you go to - http://libreoffice-na.us/English-3.5-installs/
- you get to see the current 3.5 line DVD, which is exactly the same as
the DVD media version but online, since the NA_DVD is a web-page/browser
based system with main page titles of: Info, Install, Module,
Extensions, Templates, Dictionaries, Extras, Documentation, and
Artwork. The Module page describes the different "modules" of the
package - like Writer and Calc. Info is the index.html page and is just
a general info about the DVD. The Extras include things like Firefox,
Thunderbird, and some other free packages a open-source user might like.
Between the English NA-DVD and the German LibreOffice-Box DVD, plus
other local/regional projects that currently do not list their CD/DVDs
with TDF/LO download system, I hope we cover a large portion of the
regional markets for having some media that gives new LO users more than
just the basic installs for their regional languages.
I include Hebrew language and help packs in the NA-DVD since I was told
that MSO is not supporting the Hebrew language needs for an Office
package very well. This came from some local Hebrew community members
and a lady who lives in Israel was was visiting her parents last year
when LO was in the mid 3.3.x line. They liked the fact that you can use
LO in English, Hebrew, and French for the lady from Israel since she
speaks French as well. She works/worded in the tourism field and
multi-language ability for LO was a key for her use over MSO.
SO
I hope that having the CD/DVD .iso file on the download page[s] works
out well. I also hope more regional disc projects would contribute a
version to the download page[s]. The more regional DVD projects listed
there, the better.
Now we just need a good way, and easy way, for users to buy a
professionally made DVD for their use if they do not have the available
bandwidth for downloading the .iso files. That was what the NA-DVD was
originally created for, along with handing them out to local businesses,
etc.. OOo use to have many listing for purchasing pre-made discs. It
would be nice to get some regional people/organization to "sell" the DVD
for LO donations to help these low bandwidth users. I have many friends
and business contacts that cannot download even the install files for
LO, let alone a DVD .iso file. So we need a way for these people to be
able to order a copy of a regional DVD.
Well, that is enough on that, for now. I have had over a year to
"study" this "info".
On 07/16/2012 10:22 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote:
Hi,
webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote on 2012-07-03 15:00:
Still, I have spent my personal money to promote LO locally. I am on a
fixed income, so it cannot afford to spend much at one time, but I do
spend some.
I'd like to thank you for all your work and engagement, that is really
appreciated and helps the community a lot! I really feel bad if people
spend their private money for their pro bono engagement, and I am sure
we soon will find ways of distributing money better and also enable
local organizations to collect money on behalf of TDF.
If my hosting service would allow me to have a file larger than 200MB or
so, I would host my DVD .iso file on it, along with LO's CD/DVD page,
but that service [and all I have looked at] have problems with hosting
any "repository-like" service. I wanted to be a mirror to LO's server,
but the same problem prevents that.
If you need some space to store LibreOffice-related content, feel free
to ping the website list, we might be able to help out if it's content
that fits. :)
Florian
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