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If the localized content of the new website is is to be inputed via Weblate and I don't have to go anyware near the technical side of the site than no probs. This is the situation with Mozilla, I translate in pontoon and the content appears on the various website within a short time.

My concern is the suggestion that locales could create their own content. However, im my view the level of technical competency within some locale groups may stop them from being able to do so. This would be a loss to the whole LibreOffice community.

I'm sorry, but I'm doubtful if I would be able to contribute under this arrangement.

Rhos

Ar 08/09/2021 07:50, ysgrifennodd Ilmari Lauhakangas:
On 7.9.2021 12.40, Andreas Mantke wrote:
Am 06.09.21 um 18:52 schrieb Brett Cornwall:
On 2021-09-06 15:18, Rhoslyn Prys wrote:
Hmmm, that looks pretty technical to me...

Any chance of doing something nice and easy in WordPress or similar?

Just asking :-)

I cannot speak for those owning this project.

Hugo is most certainly a much simpler solution from a maintenance
perspective. Wordpress (and similar CMSes) is a nightmare to maintain
and always devolves into a mess of plugins (that everyone is too
afraid to change/deactivate for fear of breaking the site), custom PHP
snippets galore, horrible WYSIWYG battles, and a general feeling of
dread for ever updating/changing Wordpress. So long as reliance on
JavaScript is kept to a minimum, this will be a win for
libreoffice.org's maintainability and performance (and likely SEO).

As for Git, this technical barrier is a downside for those unfamiliar:
Those in charge of content may very well not be comfortable with Git.
I should hope that the owners of this project solicited feedback from
those in charge of the site content. It's important that they are
comfortable with such a workflow.

If it weren't for merge conflicts and other VCS-isms I would argue
that learning simple markdown files + a Git GUI would be miles simpler
that learning how to use Wordpress... :)

and for those who think content contributors had only to learn markdown
and Git to make valuable contributions have no clue about non-tech-savvy
people.

First: it's not more easy to learn markdown + Git than to use a CMS for
a content contributor (most of them are usable like an office text program)

Just like with GitHub's direct editing functionality, you don't need to actually understand Git in order to make contributions.

To put things into perspective, in my site restructuring plan, there are only about 15 separate pages on libreoffice.org. Besides the very small number of pages, the structure and even the content will remain fairly static, so a CMS would be overkill.

Second: if you want to get a look onto your changes / contributions
before you submit them you need a local build environment. It works not
out of the box with a current Debian 11 fresh setup.

This is true because I use a feature introduced in Hugo 0.82 while Debian 11 ships 0.80. However, Go programs like Hugo are distributed as single binaries, so you can just download any recent release and run it: https://gohugo.io/getting-started/installing/#binary-cross-platform

In the case of Linux you could grab https://github.com/gohugoio/hugo/releases/download/v0.88.1/hugo_0.88.1_Linux-64bit.tar.gz

I did not go into these details, because the focus of this feedback phase is direct editing in Gerrit.

Ilmari

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