Re: [libreoffice-website] Request for PDF icon in Silverstripe

My opinion is that if LibreOffice should sport this new PDF icon it
should not start by using the tiny 16x16 icon. You can't see the change
there. It should first be introduced as a new "feature" or somehow be
blown up into megasize first, so that users can actually build a new
relationship to a proper large-size icon first. This would include
changing the pdf icons inside the applications as well. /Oskar


2013/7/17 Tiberiu C. Turbureanu <tct@ceata.org>

> Hello,
>
> I have requested LO join the PDF readers campaign.
>
> The icon near the links called "PDF" to the stored PDF files on your
> website is not the icon proposed by Adobe for Adobe Acrobat generated PDFs
> [1]. Simply because the icon does not include the PDF word (or any other
> indication of PDF). That icon is the Adobe  Acrobat icon [2], a non-free
> software. Even the name of the icon file is "page_white_acrobat.png" (no
> PDF word included). This is why the argument that the icon doesn't
> represent an application, but a standardized document format called "PDF",
> cannot be considered a valid one. The icon doesn't represent a standard, it
> represents an application (a non-free one). (More over, the website
> stylesheet also includes page_word.png and page_excel.png icons!) Instead,
> it's easy to replace the icon with the Free PDF readers campaign run by
> FSFE, which lists only Free Software applications for the same standard.
>
> 1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**PDF <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDF>
>
> 2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Adobe_Acrobat<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Acrobat>
>
> The problem is that by displaying an icon of Adobe Acrobat (or even an
> Adobe Acrobat generated PDF icon) near a link to a PDF document, a Free
> Software organization suggests the use of non-free software to open the
> document. This was not decided by TDF, it was decided by the developers of
> the software you use for the website. By simply replacing in the CSS file
> the icon with the Free PDF readers campaign [3] icon, TDF proves its
> support for and solidarity with other projects which develop Free Software
> for office (for manipulating office documents).
>
> 3. http://pdfreaders.org/
>
> Wikimedia has the same problem, it displays Adobe Acrobat icons for all
> its PDF links. It's sad to see so many important Free Software
> organizations advocating for Adobe's non-free software (without even
> realizing it). It would be better not to display the icon, but since there
> is a replacement available from FSFE, why not use it?
>
> 4. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**PDF#References<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDF#References>
>
> I have designed a PDF readers icon which IMO integrates well in the
> overall design of your website. Please find the PNG and SVG attached. This
> icon is a derivated work of the official PDF readers campaign by FSFE.
>
> For the link to the Free PDF readers campaign, I can make a list of all
> pages at libreoffice.org that list PDF documents.
>
> I have subscribed to the libreoffice-website mailing list so I can reply
> to further questions from your colleagues. But please forward this
> clarification on the same thread because it's not easy for me to do so
> being new on the mailing list.
>
> Thank you!
>
> --
> Tiberiu C. Turbureanu
> Președinte, Fundația Ceata
> Telefon: +40-761-810-100
> GPG: 8B51 53CB 354E 3049 FAE9  3260 F033 8452 4154 1967
>
> Susții libertatea artelor și tehnologiilor?
> Înscrie-te ca membru! (http://ceata.org/inscrieri)
>
> --
> To unsubscribe e-mail to: 
> website+unsubscribe@global.**libreoffice.org<website%2Bunsubscribe@global.libreoffice.org>
> Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/**get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-**
> unsubscribe/<http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/>
> Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.**documentfoundation.org/**
> Netiquette <http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette>
> List archive: 
> http://listarchives.**libreoffice.org/global/**website/<http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/>
> All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be
> deleted

-- 
To unsubscribe e-mail to: website+unsubscribe@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted