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On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 6:48 AM, Italo Vignoli <> wrote:
I recently had a discussion about this non existing issue, which is
caused by the lack of knowledge of PDF as a standard open format.

On 16/07/2013 11:33, Florian Effenberger wrote:

I might not be sensible enough towards the Free PDF Reader topic, but I
also think that that icon is a generic one, recognized by everyone.
Still, I wanted to share the request with this list.

We are using the generic PDF icon, which is not referring to a vendor
but to a standard format. This icon was introduced with PDF in 1993 for
third parties integrating PDF amongst their supported formats (but you
must be as old as I am to know this fact).

I was under the impression that the red trefoil on white was an Adobe
icon/trademark, e.g. as displayed here:

I thought that other products used a stylized version of the same icon
for recognition purposes, but I didn't know that it was standardized
in 1993 (presumably around the time that Adobe Acrobat 1.0 came out?)

The FSFE campaign is intended to create an icon for free PDF readers,
which are intended to read the PDF standard open format.

You cannot replace the icon for a group of application with the icon of
a file format (recognized since 1993).

The implementation goals of the campaign do seem a bit fuzzy; in
particular, I'm not exactly sure what they wanted us to do with the
icons. I thought that the smaller icons were just to demarcate
individual PDF files, but reading their graphics page more closely, it
looks like they intended them to be used to link back to PDF Readers
as well.

I was one of the members of the group of Adobe consultants who defined
the visuals for PDF, so I am rather informed on the subject.

Ah, okay, good to know!

I agree on the fact that we would need to push the
adoption of ODF by developing a campaign and creating icons for the
format, but it is a different discussion.

A different discussion, yes, but a related one (and I figured I'd
mention the idea before I forgot about it... :-)


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