Re: [libreoffice-website] website at Pootle? [was: Update of translation]

Hi *,

On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 1:02 PM, Erich Christian <erich_tdf@irq.at> wrote:
> Am 29.01.2013 10:38, schrieb Florian Effenberger:
> > Niklas Johansson wrote on 2013-01-28 20:19:
> > > To be honest I still don't know where to translate what. I redid the
> > > changes in sv_SE.php-file
> > > (attached). In github it should replace this file:
> > > https://github.com/tdf/cms-code/blob/master/mysite/lang/sv_SE.php
> > >
> > > I hope I did not mess up row 15:
> > >
> > > $lang['sv_SE']['Navigation']['TOTOP'] ='? till toppen';
> >
> > the way our website interacts with git is unfortunately one of the
> > major obstacles for me, being totally undocumented.

github repository is the base for the live site. It is not always 100%
in sync with what is on the production site since changes are done on
the production site when needed and then some time later synced with
the github repository. (and of course production site has the
site-specific configuration files and real secret keys)

> > Erich, do you have more insight here, where to change what in git and
> > where to push/pull?
>
> Ok, here is my afaik "insight":
>
> Either you have a local checkout of the repository or use the
> webinterface to apply changes directly to the respective files. wsadmin
> may also use git bash at kermit but I didn't do that yet.

Nah, that is not really suitable for people not part of the
repository's access group.

Basically this is what happens:
Someone wants to creates bigger change → that person tests and
develops that stuff locally/on a staging server. When done, depending
on personal preference either a pull-request is created (when that
person used github as well), or a (github) issue with a patch is
created, or a mail to the website list with a pointer to the files is
sent.

Small changes, either because it was mentioned in mailinglist or on
irc → an admin usually does that small change directly on the live
server, and then sometime later pushes it with some other changes that
did accumulate. (not perfect in terms of how it should be, but
well...). If that change is a pull request on github, then it first
gets integrated into the github repo (since that's just one
button-press) and then the production repo gets updated with the
change from the github-repo.

But you only need to remember that github is the basis for the
production site, but production site has additional configuration
(database configuration, etc).

Now that is for code/template changes. For translations pootle is
used, so there's an aditional instance to take into account.

> Translations of the DownloadSimplePage don't need to prove anything, so
> it looks like Rimas just committed all the changes he was aware of.

Rimas exports the translations from pootle and creates a corresponding
pull-request/provides a patch that I (or someone else) will then
integrate into the github repository. The production site is then
updated with the github repo.

Manually changes/fixes bypassing pootle are possible (send a
patch/mail the error and the desired replacement to the list) - those
will then also be applied. But of course if you don't do the same
changes in pootle as well, the next time Rimas does export the files
the fixes will be lost again, as I just take whatever pootle delivers
and assume that those are the current/desired translation strings.

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As this was about translations via the lang.php files:
 * the main source is pootle
 * but since pootle roundtrip is sometimes slow, changes can be applied manually
 * manual changes will likely be overriden on the next pootle
roundtrip if those changes were not done to the corresponding strings
in pootle.

ciao
Christian

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