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I am quite suprised seeing as the internet originated in the US you would
think that the US would be the quickest to adopt the latest technologies.

On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 4:07 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P <> wrote:

Not in my area of New York State.

I live in the "county seat" plus just across the river from down town of
the County's "capital" city, and we do not have good things like that.  For
the $40 USD we get 15 down and 1 up, if we are very lucky.  Even though we
are paying for that service, we usually get about a tenth of that on a
normal day.

We have coax cable to the buildings and a cable box to convert it to
Ethernet "WAN", digital phone, or cable TV of both analog and digital HD
channels.  There are more services, but I do not needs the home security
and other products advertised.

The cable from fiber optics is long and old [our building cable is from
the 1970's when there was only 20 +/- channels to our cable TV system].
 The node has 10 times the number of users than the system can handle
properly.  My building has about 200 apartments and by their system specs
should have its own fiber node [or two], but we share it with a large multi
blocks of other houses and apartments.  The cable going to the buildings
and in the building are so old and were not designed for modern bandwidth.

We have to have these service boxes in house, since we have to regularly
reset them to fix issues with the connection.

Our communication backbone is really old.

Europe, according to all of the tech programs I have seen about it, tends
to get things done better and quicker than we get in here.  No one here
wants to spend the money for new equipment for our backbone, Internet, TV,
or phone.  Without competition to force the local service providers to make
their service better, it never gets done.  It was only a few years ago the
cable company was forced to put fiber from their service building to the
centralized "master nodes" that are connected to the local nodes. They had
to do it when they were forced to offer HD TV to fight people going to HD
satellite services.  But they skimped on the number of local nodes.

We use to have some competition for services, but our cable lobby were
able to get the regulations changed that made it unprofitable for
competition to be in my area.  We had to make laws to force the local
Electricity provider to buy electricity from the wind-based electrical
generators.  NYSEG would not buy any solar or wind power generated by their
customers or even connect to the wind farms.  Clean energy laws had to be
passed to force them. The same type of mind-set is with out cable and phone

On 01/15/2013 09:03 AM, Jonathan Aquilina wrote:

In the US I am aware that at least in the north west such as washington
state, they offer fiber to outside the house and ethernet from a box into
the house.

On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Florian Effenberger <> wrote:


I'm really confused that the prices in the US are so high... here in
Germany we get 100 Mbit/s down and 6 Mbit/s up for about 40 € per month,
and I thought the US would be similar...

webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote on 2013-01-14 18:36:

 As for IPv6, well I really wonder when we will have it locally.
Actually, I have not found any affordable routers that advertise that
they can deal with IPv6.  Under $75 or so is affordable to some, but I
have not seen any under $400 so far, the last time I bought a router [a
month or so ago].  So if you cannot get the equipment for your
home/office for IPv6, then there is no real need for the service
providers to provide the IPv6 service, correct?

 I can recommend an OpenWRT or DD-WRT router for that. They often have
tunnelling integrated.


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