Never heard any bad press for PayPal, but that does not mean there is none.I just prefer to use it over my debit card, for security sake. It is much harder for a "business" or person to fake charges to PayPal. Once someone has my Debit card number, I take the risk that someone in their "business" could copy it and then try to use it for their own spending.
As for Censorship, well freedom of speech is part of the USA Constitution but it is "legally" violated all the time here. Business seem to have the right to demand your social network user account and password as a condition of employment. We are working on laws to stop that. Then there is the issue of "if you look like an enemy, you must be one" attitude. If you dress up in traditional Islamic robes and head gear, then you get hassled and discriminated a lot. Racial Profiling laws prevent that but it is difficult to prove and enforce.
There are legal issues about "helping" someone to buy items that may be banned by come cultures. So if it is banned in one region of the world, it is much easier to ban it from their service for everyone than try to determine if they are buying it while online in a region/community that you are not allowed to do so or is being shipped through that region.
It is much easier to just not allow something to be bought than determine if the buyer is allowed to buy it in their culture, government region, or are you old enough, etc., etc..
I do not like this type of censorship of people's right to buy, read, view, etc., from legally run web sites/businesses, but it is a hazard of doing business. Either you get people upset with you or you get government agencies knocking on your doors.
Now if the PayPal people are just censoring purchases by their own "standards" and not out of some legal requirement, then there is an issue that may be against some rule of law or rule of ethical business practice governing their business type.
But, censorship is a fact of life and hard to stop or legally prove to the courts.
On 09/19/2012 09:07 AM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
I have heard horror stories with PayPal, but I cannot confirm them. Some people simply do not like the company. Also, note that Paypal as a business is famous to implement censorship policies that tend to be shocking in my part of area of the world: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/02/legal-censorship-paypal-makes-habit-deciding-what-users-can-read and http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/oct/24/bankers-wikileaks-free-speech Best, Charles. Le mercredi 19 septembre 2012 à 14:36 +0200, Jonathan Aquilina a écrit :I dont know why people are so apprehensive of paypal. They can still send payments through them without even needing an account with them. On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 2:33 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P < webmaster@krackedpress.com> wrote:On 09/19/2012 04:07 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote:Hi, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote on 2012-09-19 00:44:Is there any reasons why Paypal payment services, for taking payments from a card, not working for TDF donations?PayPal will not be removed. However, we had dozens of people asking for offering direct credit card payments, because they specifically would not like to use PayPal, so direct credit card payment is another option we provide. FlorianWell, the one thing I like about PayPal is the "insurance factor". If you buy something online and it never comes or some fraud is involved, you can get your money back through part of their service agreement. So if someone, say on eBay, states that they do not take PayPal payments, they are to be avoided. I do remember that PayPal has/had a credit card service for those "buyers" who do not have a PayPal account. That was a good service. So what TDF is doing is setting up a system that takes various credit cards directly through the card company's service, or are you contracting a payment service company that processes the card "purchases"? I do like the reoccurring monthly payments. The you can set up a "donation" cycle, like you do for monthly Internet hosting accounts, so you can just set it up and forget about it, allowing the donations to be "sent" monthly without any hassle of remembering is you sent in a donation that month. Actually, from a marketing standpoint, having a direct credit/debit card system makes TDF "look" more professional. Almost anyone can setup a PayPal payment system, but it takes a true "professional" business to get a direct card payment service. Or, at least in my area of the world. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+help@global.**libreoffice.org<website%2Bhelp@global.libreoffice.org> Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/**get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-** unsubscribe/<http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/> Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.**documentfoundation.org/** Netiquette <http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette> List archive: http://listarchives.**libreoffice.org/global/**website/<http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/> All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted-- Jonathan Aquilina
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