Re: [libreoffice-projects] Re: [libreoffice-website] Evaluation of askbot - how to deal with different languages

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On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 3:36 AM, drew <drew@baseanswers.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-11-23 at 18:56 +0100, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
> > [...]
> > The test installation is available at:
> > http://osqa-test.libreoffice.org
> > [...]
> > http://osqa-test.libreoffice.org/question/14/how-will-this-site-work-with-different-languages
>
> In the past, when confronted with a very similar question, I've heard
> less then supportive opinions from individuals who say they have
> interacted on such sites - but I have never actually been pointed to a
> running site that I could evaluate. Maybe you can do so - is there an
> example you have found - though it sounds from your email that perhaps
> not.

??? What are you talking about? The links to the testing installation
were right in the post, and I cannot believe you never stumbled upon
stackoverflow or a similar site.
But anyway - the test-installation is at

http://osqa-test.libreoffice.org

> The state of computer translations is getting better, for sure, but from
> personal experience it really does depend on the language.

??? And what have computer translations to do with it? Sorry, but I
cannot follow you. Either your post misses some parts that you edited
out again, or I just don't realize what you're aiming at.

> Also
> IMO - if we go ahead an run a single site, all languages in the bin,
> someone is going to bitch and they are going to bitch loud and long...
> given the emphasis we as an organization place on native tongues.

Well, all langs are equal, so I don't see the problem. And those who
bitch around then just won't get karma/won't use the page.
While there surely will be people who complain about the "spam" they
cannot understand, I don't think this will be a huge problem.

> That is not so much an argument against the idea, rather a statement of
> opinion on something that IMO we should be prepared for.

Yes - but what are the alternatives?

> So - should we or should we not use a single bin for content from
> all/any  languages? I would not, given what I've seen on the current
> osqa (sorry I know the plan is to use a fork of osqa - may I ask why?]
> style site.

Hmm - why would you not?
Initially Alex did set it up as osqa, but then quickly switched to
askbot. I wouldn't consider askbot a fork of osqa, but rather its
origins are in CNPROG.
http://askbot.org/en/question/5/why-askbot?answer=5#5

askbot is nicer code, less features but more stable, faster templating
engine,...
I don't know for what reason Alex did make the switch, but so far I
don't see any problem with the platform.
http://askbot.org/en/question/220/whats-the-compelling-reasons-to-user-askbot-over

So once again: Why is it that you won't mix it "given what you've seen
on the current osqa site"

> Is there any plan to integrate on-the-fly translation?

No - at least this wasn't brought up yet. But if adding it, it will
cost money. But chromium browser has a translate this page feature
(that I personally switch off right from the start)

> If so, would that drill down to a single question that had replies in
> multiple languages?

Probably...

> anyway - my thoughts for the moment.

You wrote that you probably wouldn't use the mixing bowl and throw in
all languages into the same system - so what is your
counter-proposal/what to do instead?

ciao
Christian

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