Re: [libreoffice-website] [Proposal] A central employment-office-like web structure for LibO volunteers

Le Sun, 29 May 2011 13:40:24 +0300,
Sophie Gautier <gautier.sophie@gmail.com> a écrit :

> Hi Gianluca, Cor, all,
> On 29/05/2011 10:22, Gianluca Turconi wrote:
> > In data 29 maggio 2011 alle ore 00:16:24, Cor Nouws
> > <oolst@nouenoff.nl> ha scritto:
> >
> > > But reading Gianlucas sentence again ('wannabe developers that
> > > have no clue about where and how to ask for suggestions') I must
> > > say that I do not understand either what my reply could help with
> > > that, since I guess people with developing skills know IRC,
> > > bugtracker, ... so I do not understand the problem at all. Sorry
> > > for the confusion.
> >
> > Is there currently enough developing manpower to further improve the
> > project at a industrial pace? Have *all* *potential* external
> > developers (btw, how many are they and how many of them really
> > contribute to the project?) sufficiently knowledge about what help
> > the *current* developers need?
> >
> > If the answer is yes to both questions, the developing part of LibO
> > is just perfect and we can delete any other mean of promotion for
> > open dev tasks/bugs.
> >
> > I think there is a mentality difference between us: you spoke about
> > people that have *already* started working on the code while I speak
> > about people that haven't started, yet. The former ones are looking
> > for help to satisfy *their* own developing needs, the latter ones
> > are looking for help to satisfy the needs of the project.
> >
> > However, maybe, I'm completely missing the point in your message,
> > because I suppose that *there are* developing needs of the project,
> > based on a engineering-driven model for developing LibO.
> >
> > Am I wrong?
>
> There are developing needs, for sure, but it's difficult to give 
> information to new comers without the direct input from the
> developers. I think this is where Cor and your differences reside.
> But I find your idea for an additional layer good. May be we can ask
> to the students participating to the GSOC how they found there way
> and what they miss? Even if it's a more structured experience than
> just a new comer, it can help to underline the communication flows
> needed (or not).


Just my two cents here: to me this structure was thought to be an
entry-level platform to enable the input of possible bugs and features
by non-technical users , while enabling people who might not have been
too familiar with the development of LibreOffice to to become
acquainted to it. But to act as one source for developers'recruitment
would perhaps call a nuanced answer: developers do not need such a
platform ( a mere list of easy tasks is often enough) but developers
need specific information on what is wished. The conversion work
between an express need "please repaint the whole screen in green" to a
"RFE" (request for enhancement), as an example, has to be done by
someone who is interested in software development but who might not
have all the skills or the confidence to do it. Hence the relevance of
what I thought was Gianluca's proposal.

Best,

Charles.


> Kind regards
> Sophie


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